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    • CommentTimeFeb 9th, 2016 2:51am (Feb 9th 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    I'm not doing so good at the moment, hence why I am up at 3am :P I've mainly been left doped up so I'm too tired to do much of anything, because they don't want to get me an appt and actually sort anything...I've been walking the dogs the past few days, yesterday I went out, it's an improvement I guess.

    Even so I have a million photos :smile: THE PRINCESS TENT IS BACK!

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    Raiden was so blase about it - strutted right up & went inside. Funny, we expected some fear due to him being in a fear period! We have it right next to where we sleep so Kasper has been sleeping in it most nights - even we like it as a space to chill in haha!

    Photo from the storm at the end of Jan, after the road flooded:

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    Flooded stream-bit with waves from the 70mph winds!

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    And we bought Kasper a new harness, seeing as the Ruffwear breaks every time they send out a bad for £35+ harness!! This is a Zero DC Short harness and it seems amazing, I love it :smile:

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    Do you see the little blob of harness underneath the clip? It's to stop the lead from bouncing on the dog's back! Really thoughtful

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    Kasper came to see what I was taking photos of :heart:

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    The mutt boy

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    Fuzzy pup :)

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    Chilling with my baby :rolling:

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    Rey loves the 24 inch crate. He'll just choose to go relax in there, it's so funny...he prefers it without a bed though, little oddball :rolling:

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    Behaving around my breakfast!

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    sorry, I have a lot more incoming >__<
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th, 2016 2:58am (Feb 9th 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    Photos from a sunny day about a week ago...first time we'd seen the sun in weeks and we haven't seen it since, but that walk was beautiful!

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    Love love *love* this photo :heartsabove:

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    Kasper went swimming, even though it was early February. He had a grand old time :smile:

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    Me and the big lad chilling outside the supermarket waiting for daddy to get back with shopping!

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    I've been doing a lot of colouring, most times I'm too zonked to do anything else...this is a book my parents got me, I love how this page turned out:

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    Pet pics next, then I'm done I swear!
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th, 2016 3:08am (Feb 9th 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    And finally, introducing THE GIRLS! :heart:

    So we have Quorn (who has somehow become known as Neil the Destroyer...don't ask!) on the left and Kale on the right

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    They're Japanese quail and are around 7-8 weeks old. We picked them up 1.5 weeks ago when my parents were's a long story but we had been trying to find a breeder and the only person nearby was still really hard for us to get to. We asked the place my dad got the hencam girls from if they had quail, and they were *really* rude to us and said they wouldn't have any until summer. Then we went for a visit with my parents, and they had quail?! We asked to buy a pair but they only sell them in male-female pairs (even though that's a really bad idea), and then my 'rents said they would drive us to the other breeder we found, which was about 30 mins away in the middle of nowhere, and we were able to get our girls :bigsmile:

    Kaley girl checking out their hut

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    They're in a 120cm rabbit cage, and they are super cute...we are in love with them, and Lyle is sooo excited for that first egg!!

    They did have a cat litter box to dust bathe in, but we only saw them bathing in it once. I then switched to a small plastic storage box that I'd been keeping my felt tip pens in (about 20cmx10cm) and they love it :bigsmile:

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    That, my friends, is an expression of pure quail bliss on Kale's face :rolling:

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    Look at that dust!!!

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    I'm fairly certain I will be able to tame these two, at least to the point where they will eat out my hand. They're much tamer than any budgies / finches we have had. After everything I'd read I thought they'd be freaking everytime I so much as looked at them haha, but they're very calm and I can reach in and take / add things to their cage with no issues at all...if I get too close they will move away, but I was lifting the old dust bathing tray out with Kale on it the other day and she wouldn't move :rolling:

    Also people say these are the stinkiest quail to keep...well we've had them a week and a half now, they haven't needed cleaning out yet, and I don't smell them at all. I think it's just that most people keep so many in such a tiny space...I mean we saw recommendations that a 20cm x 13cm cage was enough for two quail, to live in!
    Still waiting for the first egg (excitement!!!!!) but it could be any day :)

    Damn, the final pics won't more post, sorry sorry.
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th, 2016 3:14am (Feb 9th 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    Today (yesterday I guess...whatever) was my first time out and about in quite a while, and in a pet shop we saw something I have wanted since I was an early teen - a dark brown Syrian hamster! She had to come home with us, she was utterly adorable, and I've been really sad with how old Prim is getting - now I have another hammy to love on

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    She's a Sable hamster, which means she's a very dark brown and underneath has this beautiful much lighter's really striking. She's very sleek, plump and healthy looking. There were lots of other interesting colours alongside the standard ginger too, we also fell in love with a longhaired white Syrian with a pale grey head who was very pretty, but I couldn't resist a dark brown :smile:

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    We have named her Effort, so she's our little Effort :tooth: :rolling:

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    Honestly, have you ever seen anything this adorable?!

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    She's in the Kios for now (80cm x 50cm) which is actually the smallest rodent cage we own haha, but once our old gerbils or equally old Prim has passed she will inherit their cage. For now I am unwilling to disturb my older pets, and Effie will feel happier and more secure in a smaller (but still large) cage

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    Obviously I need to dig out more toys, and buy a flying saucer (which she won't last three or four Syrians have ignored wheels)

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    I can't stand her cuteness, I really can't! She also has a perfect white band running down her belly which I'll have to try get a pic of

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    And yeah that's a guinea pig tube she has :tooth:

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    Okay, done!
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th, 2016 11:18am (Feb 9th 2016)
    Hey there Dear girl, we have missed you so glad you are back xxxx Dont be sorry for all the lovely pictures, we all love pictures and it is so nice to share them and its so much easier than trying to explain. So pleased you managed to get your Quail they are comical little birds and it will be interesting to see how they come on. I am sure you will be able to tame them. The little brown Hamster is so cute no wonder you fell in love with it. The dogs are looking good. I adore the one of Kasper leaning into the wind. He is such a lovely looking chap. xxx
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th, 2016 11:21am (Feb 9th 2016)
    It's great to have you back Red. And all those new pets!
    Lovely pics.
    Keep well, Lyle too.
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th, 2016 12:09am (Feb 10th 2016)
    Effort (great name!!) is beautiful! She looks quite big or are the pics deceiving?
    Cute quail - I always imagine that everything in life has a forcefield around it and the quail are moved out of the way by it as they always seem to be just a fraction away from hands/feet/etc so that they can't be touched.
    I love the pic of Rey asleep on the arm of the chair-like a teddybear!
    Mental health is going to be big in the news again so maybe there'll finally be some improvements in care. It's been far too long a time coming.
      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th, 2016 5:41pm (Feb 10th 2016)
    Will Effort get on with Prim or do they need to be separate? The quail are they make much noise/mess?
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th, 2016 10:19pm (Feb 10th 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    NN that photo of Kasper looking out at the waves is my favourite too :) It's made all the cuter because he was actually quite far away when I knelt to take photos of the water, and he came over to see what I was doing and just stood beside me!

    Thanks Ollie! I worry an insane amount about my pets, but they make my life worthwhile and I get a lot of happiness from them...totally worth it (:

    Effie is absolutely beautiful Kate, she's a stunner! Female Syrian hamsters are surprisingly huge - I generally end up with males so I forget how big females are, but they can get truly massive! She's already close to the size of Prim and will probably double :smile:

    CC Syrian hamsters are strictly solitary animals, if you keep them with another they will usually fight to the death. They're quite nippy (not usually aggression, they just respond to most things with nibbles!) but usually quite confident and easy to tame...tend to seem impressively stupid though! :rolling:

    I don't usually plug my blog here, but there's a post from earlier today I would like to share, to try help further understanding...there's a lot of misinformation out there and a lot of people really don't understand what Bipolar / Schizophrenia might feel like to a person, so I thought I'd share it to help carers or those suffering *shrug* Feel free to read it if you want to though :smile:


    And quail news...good and bad.

    Kale has been acting a little off today (she started off barely noticeably different, then it got a more obvious, then she seemed to improve) - droopy wings and fluffed up feathers. She is walking fine, alert, and has been eating and drinking etc, but I am terrified she is egg bound.

    1) She has been spending significantly more time in the corner/s of the cage, looking like a chicken laying. Now quails don't use nest boxes, so with a chicken you might guess she was egg bound by the frequent visits to the nest box, but you don't get that with quail.

    2) First time egg layers are more likely to be egg bound, and unfortunately from what I've read it's reeeaaally common for quail to become egg bound. Ugh.

    They've been having yoghurt every day or two as it is, because they like it and it's good for them. Today we went and bought some ACV and added it to their water. I've given them extra grit and we've had the heating on & way up, as heat can help an egg bound hen lay. I've called local vets (from pet to farm vets) and every single one has told us not to take her in if she gets worse because there's nothing they can do and "she's just a quail"

    So...I don't know if I'm over-reacting and over-thinking it, or if she is ill. I mean chickens and quail do hide illnesses until they're really ill, so...we've also ordered some meds to treat cocci, just in case it's that. Cocci can be common in young and young-ish quail. Bah!

    I'm trying to steel myself and prepare for the worst...but it's hard because I already love these girls so much!!

    I mean these past few days they have let me stroke them, and Quorn has been eating from my hand :crying:

    Eh. Please keep your fingers crossed. I'll post pics next...
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th, 2016 10:30pm (Feb 10th 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    Here is Ms Quorn standing on a plastic level I was putting into their cage after clean was so funny, I was flying her all over the place :rolling:

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    I'm using the level as a feeding station...they like to knock and spill food into the substrate, which is obviously unhygienic, so hopefully this way the pellets will land on the tray and I can sweep them up easily.

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    I moved their litter box to give them more running space, and I also modified the corner where it looked like Kale was trying to lay (see her behind the ramp?)

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    I swapped the small ramp for a full level with a hole in, and I also added a plastic panel to the outside of the cage...this means the corner is completely closed in and private, which I hoped would help her squeeze out the potential egg.

    And finally here is Quorny eating from my hand - I am so impressed, they've been here less than two weeks! :heartsabove:

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    The first clean out was a wonderful success. I thought it would completely freak the girls, but they did that chickeny thing where they run over and try 'help' by closely observing and digging at the substrate :tooth:

    There was lots of spilled food and of course poops, but they didn't smell at all. I scooped out the cardboard strips and wiped everything down with a mixture of water, washing up liquid and vinegar, and hey presto! Done in less than twenty minutes :smile:

    Here's a video so you can see the adorableness, and Quorn eating from hand!

    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th, 2016 11:52am (Feb 11th 2016)
    Hi Red she might just be getting ready to lay her first egg and as she is young she might just be nervous as to what is happening to her , With them living in beside you I am sure you notice much more as to their every move unlike with chickens and out door birds. Fingers and every thing crossed here that she is ok. So cute that one is eating out of your hand already do they have a pecking order just like hens or just do their own thing ?
      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th, 2016 6:15pm (Feb 11th 2016)
    Excellent blog, Red. I can't believe the insensitive remarks some people make though. You are coping extremely well, cherub. Keep on keeping on... Would good sunglasses help your light sensitivity?
    The quail are gorgeous! :heart:
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th, 2016 8:33pm (Feb 11th 2016)
    What would you do if Kale was a chicken? Would it be a warm bath - I don't suppose that is possible for her as she's probably too nervous to let you do that. Let's hope NN is right and it's just youth and inexperience (a bit like giving birth maybe?!)

    Loved your blog - I didn't understand what it was like for you before, but that really puts it in perspective. It reminds me of my nan. She became ill and people said she had 'lost her mind'. I was about 11 at the time. One day she called me up to the bedroom (bear in mind my mom was at work so it scared me somewhat!) and insisted that I call the police as a man had put his ladder against the outside of the house and made a hole through so that he could watch her from the top of the wardrobe. There wasn't even 6 inches of space up there, but she was sure. Another time I found her very distressed holding money in her outstretched hand. When I asked why she said the little girl was frightening her so she was giving her money to go away (she thought she was standing at the foot of the bed). Obviously the reason for this was different (hers was dementia), but the experiences she exhibited were similar so I completely understand how this feels to you. Thankfully my nan trusted me completely so I was able to reassure her - I hope you are able to maintain your trust in Lyle (and the dogs!) to help you through. xx
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th, 2016 7:08am (Feb 12th 2016)
    Red, I loved the pictures and I'm so glad to see you back here with us again.
    Your little quail are just darling, as is your new hamster Effie. I loved the picture of her standing up..the things that make you say "Awww"..that would be that pic of Effie.:face-smile:
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th, 2016 1:21pm (Feb 12th 2016)
    good idea for a thread there Lynn the awwwww factor xxxx
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th, 2016 1:22pm (Feb 12th 2016)
    How is the little girl today Red ??
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th, 2016 9:56pm (Feb 12th 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    Most important things first - quail news!

    I think Kale seems a little better today. Her wings are still low, but her feathers aren't fluffed or ruffled. She is still eating, drinking, scratting and dust bathing - she loves dust bathing! Still no egg though - I hope she's just getting ready and feels a little off because of it like you said NN.

    Kate - see if it was an egg bound chicken you'd have more of an idea, because they'd be constantly in and out the nest box...but quails just pop out eggs wherever they happen to be (supposedly - we'll see if our girls use a box!) so it's hard to know if she is egg bound or something else. I don't think she can be egg bound because from what I know the hen worsens quickly and Kale seems to look better today.

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    Kale on the left, Quorn on the right

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    (they don't understand that mealworms are food!! :gasp: )

    Now her wings look fine in the pics, but you should be able to tell more in this video:

    And Quorny girl

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    Remember how sometimes I used to get hilariously awesome photos of Milly head on? Well, Quorn wanted a try :rolling:

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    Bwahaha she looks so grumpy!! :rofl: And to prove she's actually a very pretty girl...
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    Fingers crossed...I am very cautiously hopeful that Kale is bouncing back from whatever was up...
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th, 2016 10:12pm (Feb 12th 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    Posted By: chief chickenExcellent blog, Red. I can't believe the insensitive remarks some people make though. You are coping extremely well, cherub. Keep on keeping on... Would good sunglasses help your light sensitivity?
    The quail are gorgeous!<img src=" title=":heart:" />

    Thanks so much CC :) We did think about sunglasses but I don't have any prescription ones, and when I wear sunglasses over my regular glasses they don't fit very well and light leaks in. I had an eye test yesterday, just to check the blurriness and inability to focus was nothing serious, and they said my eyes were healthy. My vision in one eye had changed enough for new glasses though, so I've chosen some cool new frames :bigsmile:

    Thanks Kate, it's been a rough ride! Some things the 'real or not real?' game works really well for (visual hallucinations) but it's harder to argue with the paranoia or things I think are certain - I'm very lucky as Lyle is constantly trying to learn and understand what I'm going through and how to help me. He has been absolutely amazing.

    Lynn we added a DIY cage to Effort's Kios today (my god was that a LOT of effort...) so I have lots of cute hammy pics for you!

    I'll do the cage pics first; this took us a whole six hours to build - ugh! We are SO bad at DIY! :rolling:

    We had to coat the floor and roof in mesh, because Syrians (females especially in my experience) will chew anything they can, which includes the curves or dents in plastic storage boxes.

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    And we had no cable ties, so we had to use threads of wire to fasten it - surprisingly sturdy!

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    Mesh window for ventilation (ugly but adequate!) and wooden planks we sawed to fit the floor - we mis-measured one so I had to spend over an hour sanding the length so it fit >__<

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    Then we took the single small door off the Kios (only access the cage has...) so we could line the entrance to the 'loft' up to the lower cage...and Effie had her first proper handling :smile:

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    She was so cute and really not too fearful at all. I had to watch her like a hawk though as Syrians have a nasty habit of just plopping off surfaces, no matter how high they are!

    If you can see the small dot to Effie's right, it's a fly that she stood up against, squashed and promptly ate :rolling:

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    • CommentTimeFeb 12th, 2016 10:14pm (Feb 12th 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    She was climbing my arms and getting strokes, I was really impressed for her third day home!

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    *squeee!* :heart:

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    The RUB is 60cm x 30cm x 30cm, so it's a nice extension for her

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    Unlike the degus, that took weeks to discover the extra, Effie was up in minutes!!

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    I stole a huge log tunnel from the chins to make a climbing frame up to the loft...they won't mind too much, I gave them an extra level to make up for it!

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    "Wow there's food up here!"

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    It's worked out really well, she loves it :smile: Probably not worth six hours effort though :rolling:

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    • CommentTimeFeb 12th, 2016 10:15pm (Feb 12th 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    Oh, and here be some (much tamer!) chins :)

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    They haven't chewed the plastic levels once, so I've given them a few extra ones now!

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    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th, 2016 11:44am (Feb 13th 2016) edited
    New glasses Red. Get on the phone fast and add "Rectolite" to your prescription.
    It is pricey but your glasses automatically change to sun glasses when there is bright light.
    They don't go very dark, that is the wearer doesn't feel it is a dull day.
    I have had this on my prescription glasses for years and never needed extra shades, not even in Africa, Spain or Florida (nice excuse to brag about some of my travels!)
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th, 2016 6:32pm (Feb 15th 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    Aw shoot, that would have been good... >__<

    We probably wouldn't have been able to afford it, but I'd have appreciated those lenses right now :rolling: Hopefully picking my new colourful specs up this weekend - exciting!
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th, 2016 5:40pm (Feb 18th 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    Kale is back to being 100% and is a right greedy guts - after being suspicious of mealworms she LOVES them now! She's still the more timid of the two, but quite bossy with it and will happily eat from my hand.

    Quorn is now the ill one :( She hadn't been eating much at all, but I added a new food bowl today and she was eating from it, so that was good. She seems to obsess with staring out the window / in certain directions, and it can be hard to break. They haven't had ACV in their water, just some cocci meds, as I didn't want it to taste too weird for them. But then I worried it was the ACV that helped Kale, so I added some today after clean out.

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    Kale eating everything in sight :rolling:

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    Kale covered in dust, bathing!

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    Video of both of them

    • CommentTimeFeb 18th, 2016 11:18pm (Feb 18th 2016)
    Poor Quorn, I hope it's just something temporary and she'll feel better soon.
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th, 2016 11:29am (Feb 19th 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    Eh, me too :(

    I added a food bowl to the cage and since I put it in Quorn has been eating out of that. We also put ACV back in their water. Today Quorn seems much more herself, but she seems to vary throughout the day anyway so maybe I just caught her at a really good moment...

    Thanks Kate :heart:
      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th, 2016 7:46pm (Feb 19th 2016)
    Hope she's feeling more herself soon, Red.
    I misread the post at first and thought KATE was eating mealworms... :rolling:
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th, 2016 9:50pm (Feb 19th 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    Thanks CC. Today has been a good day for her. It's so stressful having a sick pet, especially when vets won't treat them and will just PTS...

    I keep getting worried and have to re-check old posts to make sure I haven't said Kate is acting off, eating mealworms etc :rofl: I bet it's happened somewhere...if it has I'm sorry Kate! :rolling:
    • CommentTimeFeb 21st, 2016 7:54pm (Feb 21st 2016)
    That's OK, I hear they're full of protein!! :beurk::ack2::_puke:
    • CommentTimeFeb 21st, 2016 8:46pm (Feb 21st 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    :rolling: :rofl: :rolling:

    Nice and crispy too :D

    So if you remember, Kale used to be very scared of people...well, three weeks with us, and look at this little munchkin - she has the taste for human flesh!!

    Haha no but seriously, my hands = treats to her, so whenever I go near the cage she *rushes* over and pecks me madly...until I stroke her and show her I'm not food :rolling:

    She has also started waiting by the cage door when I open it :heartsabove:

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    Look at that beautiful feather patterning!

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    Also I added a level today because Kale was trying to get up high (not sure why) but she bonked her head a few times :rolling:

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    I managed to get Kale on the ramp by luring her with a mealworm, but she pecked it across the cage and then fell off in a mad scrabble to get to it bwahahaha! Nobody has been on the level yet, but Kale *really* wants to!

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    Quorn update - she was acting well this morning, by evening she seemed a little off again, but not badly so. She is still eating and seriously enjoyed a dust bath today! It almost looks like she is moulting (she has feather growth on her neck / chest) but she must be layng too...*can* birds moult and lay at the same time?! I wasn't sure they could, but if they can perhaps the strain of both would stress her out.....?!?
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 21st, 2016 9:52pm (Feb 21st 2016)
    such pretty little birds when you see them up close like that. Our next door neighbour used to have them oh many years back and a different house to what we are in now. They lived on the floor of his outdoor aviary. Thinking about it I think he had way to many birds in there. You didnt seem to notice the quail as he had so many other brightly coloured birds in there.
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd, 2016 9:34am (Feb 22nd 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    They really are beautiful, I don't think I really appreciated it until that photo, and then I looked at the intricate patterning and was just like WOW :smile: Yes, I can imagine the quail's beauty easily gets lost among more colourful birds.
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd, 2016 9:42am (Feb 22nd 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    Oh I wanted to say we have a new addition planned for this week, hopefully tomorrow but it depends. It's been in the works this past week, but has a date set now so...we're getting a bunny! We have missed having one since Iden passed last summer, but didn't think too seriously about getting another when we had Zoey because it's impossible to spend time with a rabbit other than in the garden - Zoey would whine any time she was crated and we were in the house, and it just doesn't make for a pleasant atmosphere!! Now that Zoey isn't here we have two dogs who are much calmer, and we will be able to have the bunny out in the house for 2 - 6 hours a day, either as a large chunk or split up into a few hours here and there :bigsmile:

    Now we did want to wait until spring when the weather was a bit warmer (so on the shorter days, where we had been out doing stuff, the bun could spend time in the garden as well as 2 hours in the house), but my mood is far up at the moment...and before anyone (*cough* dad *cough* :surprised: :tongue:) says it's stupid to get a rabbit in this mood, I have Lyle as a buffer and we spent a week discussing everything first...breeds, cages, care, placement etc. I was looking at rabbits for rehoming and found a beautiful chocolate himalayan rabbit last Friday, even a Mini Lop x Lionhead like Idie was! And you know I love my Siamese / Himalayan colourings :bigsmile:

    Now the breeder lived in the middle of nowhere (always happens!) but after a few days when all I could think about was that rabbit, we got in touch and the breeder actually lived slightly closer and will drop the bunny off! :smile: She is 7 months old (never been bred from) and the breeder is letting her go, she has a lovely personality, is healthy and we are adopting her! :bigsmile:

    I am so excited! I ordered a cage last week which should arrive tomorrow, it's a 120cm double storey cage that will be her base, and she will also have a small secure penned in corner (about 4.5ft x 3ft) that she can pootle in too. Then she will roam the house and, when it's warmed up a little, she can have time outdoors too. I'd like to put a bolt on the gate first though, as sometimes she will free-range out there, and I want to make a digging pit too as we don't have any soil :bigsmile:

    We've seen photos of her and she is utterly adorable. We have a name picked out but I won't say just yet in case we change it upon meeting her. Excited!!
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd, 2016 1:12pm (Feb 22nd 2016)
    Exciting news Red I so miss my bunnies and can totally see why you are missing one as well. I dont want to be rude but what happened to Zoey ? If it is to painful to say just tell me to mind my own business and I will understand. My bunnies loved to dig the most huge holes goodness knows where half the soil went but I could never totally fill them back up using the spoil heap they had dug out. I havent heard or seen the fox for ages but just dont want to risk the upset of it again. I worry about Chewbacca if we are not home before dark. She was laying a real treat but I dont know if she has stopped or is hiding her eggs somewhere. I had to buy some eggs the other day and they were no where as lovely as the beautiful golden yolks that she gives us xx
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd, 2016 1:37pm (Feb 22nd 2016) edited

    Keeper of the hens

    NN, in early November we forgot to lock the pen door one time when we left Zoey in the house, and she pushed the door and opened it. After that she broke out of everything we tried to leave her in (an exercise pen and several dog crates) and developed really bad separation anxiety. We tried lots of things to help her (meds, frozen Kongs and LOTS of puzzle toys, left her free-range in our living room, bedroom, filmed her being left etc) - in fact I didn't leave the house, other than to walk her, for two months!

    It was really stressful and Zoey and even Kasper were just utterly miserable. Zoey was stressed out all the time and it wasn't doing any of us any good. We thought we were making progress as we left her for a few times up to thirty minutes I think, in our bedroom, when one time she did quite a bit of damage and we just couldn't risk it happened again and not being able to leave the house again...not when my illness had gotten so bad and I needed to see the Dr's. So in December we began seriously looking into rehoming her, and New Year's Day I think it was we met up with a couple who had an older, large bully cross...anyway they all hit it off! We went and chatted minus their dog, and they saw how Zoey was and we talked a lot, and the next day we met up again and then all took Zoey to their house.

    They had a Staffy previously and when it had cancer they had a family member go look after the dog every time they left it, and that's what they do with Zoey, every time they want to leave together. She has been living with them since and they love her and all seems to be doing really, really well. It is the best outcome we could have hoped for. They sent several texts a day to begin with, and we have had a few photos, but we told them that once they were sure they were happy & Zoey was happy, we didn't want to hear from them much at all. She is theirs' now. We miss her terribly, of course we do, and we do feel we let her down...but our lives have opened up a lot since she left the house, and the other two dogs are so very much happier, so I know it was the right decision for everyone :smile:

    So I really can't wait to have a bunny again! The entire time we had Iden we also had Zoey, and we just couldn't get him out in the house and spend time with him together - one of us had to be in the living room with Zoey, so she wasn't whining as much, and it all felt a bit pressured. Hopefully it will be so nice to have a bun that can pootle about with us in peace!
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd, 2016 3:00pm (Feb 22nd 2016)
    Thank you for the update Red It was such a difficult decision to have to make and after reading the problems it was certainly for the very best for you all. I know how much you both loved her and just wondered what had happened. you most certainly did not let her down one little bit you took her in and tried to give her the very best, She just wanted something else in her life and hopefully she has found it now. Im so glad she wasnt run over or anything horrible like that. Sometime these things happen and as much as you try to do it doesnt work. We had a cat like that once and she turned real mean and spitefull in the end, despite us trying to do the best by her. Yet she settled in with an older couple a couple of streets away and was happy as Larry. You have all moved on now and I am so glad every thing worked out well. Summer is on its way we change the clocks in a few weeks and I am sure you will start to feel a lot better. We will be up your way sometime in the summer I will let you know when and we may be able to meet up for a coffee or ice cream. Oh by the way Im buying so no arguments xxxxx
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd, 2016 5:23pm (Feb 22nd 2016) edited

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    Thank you so much NN :bighug: That would be awesome! Are you just coming for a day by the sea or do you have family / friends up here? Let me know around when you are coming and we'll make sure we are can buy the ice cream if we can get the candyfloss / rock :bigsmile:

    Look who has been up on the level half a dozen times so's Kale (no NOT Kate!!)

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    And she really is such a greedy guts (again, Kale NOT Kate :rolling: ) - when I fill the foodbowls she runs straight from one bowl to the next to pick out her favourite bits!!

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    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd, 2016 12:01am (Feb 23rd 2016)
    I like almost sharing a name with Kale! Good to hear Zoey settled well - I didn't want to ask in case it upset you. xx
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd, 2016 1:30pm (Feb 23rd 2016)
    We get about all over the place Red just for the day or an overnighter now and then.We used to have family near Shipley but they have left this mortal coil now. So many wonderful places and things to do and see.
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd, 2016 5:11pm (Feb 23rd 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    Posted By: KatebI like almost sharing a name with Kale! Good to hear Zoey settled well - I didn't want to ask in case it upset you. xx

    Awww :) No, everybody is doing really well...we're down to a text every 2-4 weeks now, they're being really good about it.

    NN Shipley was right next to where we used to live, like one very short train stop away :smile: My parents keep trying to get us to move back to Yorkshire; I say they should move to the sea! :rolling:
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd, 2016 7:35pm (Feb 23rd 2016)
    I used to love living by the sea years ago. that was in South Wales out in the sticks so wild and beautiful hardly saw any one on the beach back then.
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th, 2016 10:02am (Feb 24th 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    I haven't been to Wales that much but I LOVE it! I stayed at camp a few times there as an early teen, and we had a few day trips / camping trips with my parents too. I love it so much :smile:
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th, 2016 11:04am (Feb 26th 2016)
    when we relocated I so wanted to live there but there were no jobs still it dont take that long to go for a visit if you get up really early !!!
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th, 2016 2:58pm (Feb 27th 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    Changed the quail cage whilst cleaning it out looks *so* good, it's like a child's play area haha!

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    And top level (there's food & water on both now)

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    Kale is still rocking the ramps whereas I've barely seen Quorn on them...I'm trying to push her further by moving the food above one!!

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    Quorn eating seeds

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    Kale standing on one leg and looking pretty :heart:

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    And a video of the quailing about. Kale falls backwards off a ramp and is generally adorable, and Quorn eats Cockatiel mix from my's pretty cute :smile:

    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd, 2016 2:33pm (Mar 2nd 2016)
    it looks a lovely set up for them Red and they are doing so well inside xxx
    • CommentTimeMar 4th, 2016 12:39am (Mar 4th 2016)

    Keeper of the hens

    They're rocking it NN, we love them...I finally have my own 'chickens'! :)
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMar 5th, 2016 7:12pm (Mar 5th 2016)
    You always find a way and at least you can clean them out in the warmth.