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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd, 2016 10:28am (Mar 22nd 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Poor Renee gave us a scare last night - she's still with us though :)



    At about 4pm yesterday I noticed someone had laid an egg in the dust-bathing pit in the run - this is pretty unusual as hens like to lay their eggs in a nice dark nest so it usually means something like a bad mite infestation (which makes the hens not want to visit the nest box and get bitten)...


    But the other hens had laid in the nest box - I rang Helen and asked her to go collect the egg as I didn't want the other hens to peck and eat the egg (this can lead to egg-eating when they realise they are good to eat!)


    Helen told me that the egg had a bit of blood on the shell - I wasn't too worried as they are only just starting to lay and things might be a bit of a squeeze whilst they get the hang of it - if there's a lot of blood, or every time an egg is laid it can be a problem though.


    I rewound the hencam (what a great feature!) and found out the culprit was... Renee.  I think it was only her second egg, so it didn't seem too much of a worry.


    However when I went to check on them later that night, I saw Renee roosting and her bottom was a bit messy with a bit of blood and discharge (sorry, readers!) and she strained and a weird white thing appeared, only to disappear shortly after - I realised it was another egg?!


    So we sprung into action, ran her a warm bath, and soaked her in it for 15 minutes - she was a bit flighty at first (she is the least human-friendly of our hens typically), but I think eventually she liked it and actually sat with Helen holding her in a towel whilst she blow-dried her with a hairdryer (in the pic above).


    I phoned the vet and got an appointment in the nest 25 minutes (honestly, why can't GP's be like this?!) and half an hour later we were explaining things to the vet.  She told us as she was a bit flighty she'd take Renee in the back so another nurse could help hold her whilst she examined her, so me and Helen waited in the waiting room for 10 minutes.


    She came back holding another bloody egg!  She said "I'd like to take credit for this, but in the time it took me to carry her from the examination room to the back room, out it popped on it's own!".  She said it might have been the bath that helped it along, or just been taken out into unfamiliar surroundings.


    She also said the egg wasn't fully formed - it had a thin papery shell that wasn't shiny which would have made it very hard to pass through - she thought it was because Renee wasn't getting enough calcium.  I explained she really did as they had good quality layer's pellets, two different tubs containing different sizes of grit and calcium / oyster shell, and vits + spice + calcium in their food as a supplement too.


    I told her that there had been a fox scare a couple of days ago which I know can disrupt egg production, and she said "ahhh! that probably explains it!" - she had also felt for another egg and there wasn't any others at the moment so hopefully it she will get back to normal but for now we'll be keeping a close eye on Renee.


    At the moment she's sat on the new high branches (they are a good addition to the coop aren't they?) and preening herself so hopefully she feels ok - I'm hoping she waits a few days before laying another egg just to give her a bit of time to recover...


    So, the upshot was, Renee laid the most expensive egg in the world (it cost me over £26!)...

    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd, 2016 11:00am (Mar 22nd 2016)
     
    So glad to hear she is Ok thanks to your quick reactions, she is such a pretty little thing, I love her little crest on her head xx
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd, 2016 4:39pm (Mar 22nd 2016)
     
    £26??? I'm bundling my animals in the car to come to your vet - bargain!!!!
    Glad Renee is on the up - good job you were on the ball! She'll probably do it again just for the bath...
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd, 2016 4:58pm (Mar 22nd 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    £26 just for a vet to put their finger up Renee's bum, it didn't sound like good value to me (or Renee probably!)
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd, 2016 6:19pm (Mar 22nd 2016)
     
    Relieved she's OK - let's hope she doesn't give you any more scares!!

    Just to put my NHS hat on - if patients had to pay to go to the GP (which I don't believe they should) they'd make sure it was a necessary visit, and wouldn't be going for things such as asking for paracetamol on prescription (19p at the supermarket) so more appointments would be available. A lot of GPs will have emergency appointments available, lots of areas have walk in centres, and there's A&E - all free. If you offered him £26 I'm sure your GP would give you the same treatment Renee received - he'd probably happily do it for free though and call it 'checking your prostate'!!
    :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd, 2016 2:43pm (Mar 23rd 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Posted By: KatebRelieved she's OK - let's hope she doesn't give you any more scares!!

    Just to put my NHS hat on - if patients had to pay to go to the GP (which I don't believe they should) they'd make sure it was a necessary visit, and wouldn't be going for things such as asking for paracetamol on prescription (19p at the supermarket) so more appointments would be available. A lot of GPs will have emergency appointments available, lots of areas have walk in centres, and there's A&E - all free. If you offered him £26 I'm sure your GP would give you the same treatment Renee received - he'd probably happily do it for free though and call it 'checking your prostate'!!
    :face-smile:


    I love the NHS and it's rightly a shining beacon of how healthcare should be (although it seems various governments over the years are determined to weaken, dilute and destroy it)... BUT hearing Scarlet's struggle and massive problems with getting help from multiple health agencies and their complete misunderstanding and terrible handling of her situation make me realise why those lucky enough to be able to afford it do go private.

    With mental health so 'trendy' in politics at the moment and the government promising x amount to improve healthcare offerings, it really is just lip-service and as it doesn't directly affect them, they really don't give a shit. This goes from those in charge right down to the doctors, who think nothing of telling someone clearly in distress that there isn't anyone to see them yet and to come back in "a couple of months" or to "snap out of it"...

    I have been lucky enough not to need the NHS much but when I have it's been generally good - sadly Scarlet's not been so lucky but then her needs are pushed under society's carpet.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd, 2016 7:22pm (Mar 23rd 2016)
     
    Our vet charges you £32 just to stand on their doormat. A finger fumble would no doubt be extra...
    The mental health side of the NHS is seriously underfunded in comparison to the rest of it; my friend's daughter is a psychiatrist and tells some terribly sad stories of the results of such underfunding - but as Neil says, it all vanishes under the government's all-encompassing carpet.
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeMar 24th, 2016 12:21am (Mar 24th 2016)
     
    Our health care system in totally screwed up now. Everyone is required to buy health insurance and if you can't afford it, they charge you a $3000. fine a year, till you get it..and the insurance doesn't cover anything...it's complete poop. :cursing:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 24th, 2016 10:26pm (Mar 24th 2016)
     
    We are better off than you Lynn, despite what the press tell us.
    I completely agree with you Neil -- MH has been underfunded for as long as the NHS has been in existence, and care in that area is disgraceful unless you're lucky enough to have a GP who has a personal interest in it. The government are doing their best to destroy it and force us to the American system, and waste so much money it's unbelievable.

    How is Renee today?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 25th, 2016 6:03pm (Mar 25th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Posted By: chief chicken£26??? I'm bundling my animals in the car to come to your vet - bargain!!!!
    Glad Renee is on the up - good job you were on the ball! She'll probably do it again just for the bath...


    I told you that was cheap dad!!!
    Love that photo of Renee too :smile:

    I have completely lost faith in the NHS...when we phoned up a Bipolar charity for advice a few months back, and asked them how we could actually get help, the first thing they asked was if we could afford private healthcare. They said there was no way we would get adequate support otherwise...we already knew that really, but it still sucks there isn't anything else that can be suggested.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 25th, 2016 9:16pm (Mar 25th 2016)
     
    It is a disgrace Red, and I know several GPs that are as frustrated as you with the lack of care. How awful that a charity can't suggest anything better either.
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMar 25th, 2016 11:26pm (Mar 25th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Renee has been fine - we bought the girls a huge mealworm/suet/fat bird treat thing as I read giving them this gives them the fats they need to help erm... create the slime needed to aid getting an egg out (trying to word it without making everyone throw up!)

    Today she sat for several hours in a nest box laying an egg but I only just got home so hopefully she managed to lay fine.

    I'll know first thing tomorrow!
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMar 29th, 2016 2:36pm (Mar 29th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Renee is laying the most beautiful porcelain white eggs...

    We've had three or four now so hopefully it's all working out.

    Now the worry is Mabel - she went back to bed shortly before lunch-time and spent several hours roosting during the day?! Then she came out, went back in, came out, went in the nestbox and pecked some eggs, then roosted again....?! Now she's outside like nothing's up. I'm hoping it's just a bit of confusion over the first egg and she'll be ok.