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    • CommentAuthorDebs
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 1:03pm (May 19th 2016)
     
    Hi all, I'm new here but can see you know lots so I'm after some advice.

    One of my girls was fine yesterday (and as far as I remember at 7am too) but was sat on the floor about 10am with her mouth open when I went to visit. Picked her up (shes not one for cuddles) and she had a droopy tail and comb. She can stand but isn't keen.
    Felt her bottom end and it seems full but I'm no expert. She could just be chunky, I'm not used to picking her up. Shes certainly more rounded than her coop-mates.
    All of them stopped laying about a month ago when we had a fox scare and a hen was taken. I've had one egg about 2 days ago and none since but I have seen her sitting. Shes not been a broody one.
    The other thing is we got 2 new rescue hens at the weekend. They have a clean bill of health and were wormed the week before.
    I've bathed my girl twice today and had a feel around but can't feel anything. She did pass a load of white whilst in the bath.

    Soo...my question is, is this hen egg bound or could it be something else.
    She's not snotty, her eyes are clear and following me around. Shes just feeling miserable. Also her crop is empty today.
    • CommentAuthorDebs
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 1:05pm (May 19th 2016)
     
    Oh and I couldn't see any mites on her.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 1:32pm (May 19th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Hi Debs, and welcome :)

    I'm sorry you've got a poorly girl on your hands, it certainly sounds like she could possibly be egg bound, but it's hard to say.

    Could you try giving her a warm bath? I know a lot of times that helps ease the muscles, and can 'encourage' the egg out! If after the bath nothing's emerging, you might have to slip a finger in her vent to see if you can feel a stuck egg.

    I'll try add more asap, I just have a crazy puppy taring around the house!!!!
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 1:35pm (May 19th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    We had this with Renee - exactly the same thing - fox scare.

    It disrupts their egg-making - in our case it was an egg that didn't have the final shiny layer, so it was all dry and papery which meant it was really difficult for the poor thing to lay.

    In the end, she laid an egg, but looked awful and was still straining. We bathed her, which did relax her a bit, but she still didn't lay, so we took her to the vet, and as the vet was taking her, out plopped another egg (2 in one day) - again it was a bit dry and papery.

    The vet had a check to see if there were any more eggs (I'm afraid if you want to do this you need to put on a marigold, get some olive oil on it and use your finger to check for any stuck eggs inside - ugh!) - although this might be best something done by your vet.

    In our case there weren't any more eggs, and she was ok afterwards and has laid fine since.

    The problem is, if your girl has an egg stuck, and more eggs are forming, it can cause real problems really quickly - they get blood poisoning and then that's fatal :(

    If you can, give her another warm bath (with some epsom salts in if possible), leave her in for about 20 minutes and massage her abdomen if she'll let you. See if that helps get things moving. If not, I'd suggest a quick trip to the vets.

    Good luck and please let us know how you get on - I'm sure someone with more knowledge will be along soon :)
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 1:38pm (May 19th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Can you see your girl straining, the muscles around her vent pulsing? Keeping an eggbound hen warm is said to be very helpful (hence the bath), and if she is egg bound lubing up her vent to help the egg pass is a good idea. You can also try gently pushing her belly to try move the egg along

    If you can feel an egg inside her, you CAN try and pierce the egg and remove it that way, but you must be extremely careful to remove all the fragments, as they can get stuck inside her and cause poisoning. I wouldn't recommend this unless nearby vets are useless and you have no other options.

    Do you have any farm vets / vets that have experience with chickens nearby? They're very hard to come by, but a lucky few have wonderful vets that are useful in an emergency - it might be worth taking her in if you do have a good vet, as an eggbound hen can go downhill rather quickly.

    I hope she can make a speedy recovery, sending you lots of positive thoughts!
    • CommentAuthorDebs
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 1:52pm (May 19th 2016)
     
    Thank so much everyone for your quick replies!
    Yes her vent is pulsing, I did try and have a feel around in there but I was afraid I would hurt her. Will look at some anatomy pictures! I've got some epsom salts as well so will add those with her next bath.
    She's snuggled in the next box so shes warm and dry and it's dark in there. Hoping she gets relief soon.
    Our local vets are more pet-based but I've got a friend whos recently trained so I might ask for her advice, she might know somewhere.
    Debs
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 1:55pm (May 19th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I've never had to have a feel for a stuck egg so I can't offer any help there...oh this link seems helpful:

    http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/egg-binding-symptoms-treatment-and-prevention

    Good luck and please keep us updated!
    • CommentAuthorDebs
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 2:22pm (May 19th 2016)
     
    That website was really good thanks, I've just fed her some crushed up rennies and shes taken a few sips of water from a spoon. Will bath her again after school pick up x
    • CommentAuthorDebs
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 5:03pm (May 19th 2016)
     
    Came home from the school run and she'd died :(
    Son is very sad.

    Thanks xx
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 5:08pm (May 19th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Awwww... Sorry to hear that. :(

    Not really much more you could have done...

    Rest in peace little chicken.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 7:40pm (May 19th 2016)
     
    Oh Debs that's so sad - after she seemed to be a little improved too. You did what you could - there's no saying if you'd got her to a vet they'd have been able to help. Maybe it would be worth contacting local ones just to see if they have any hen experience - some practices are pet focussed but they have a 'frustrated' farm vet just waiting for the right opportunity to come along for them. Or an exotics vet - they will deal with parrots etc so may have a better idea than the standard dog/cat/rabbit vet. At least then you'll have an idea of where to go for vet help if you need it in the future.

    Sleep soundly little hen. I hope your son is OK. xx
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 8:18pm (May 19th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I'm so sorry for your loss... :bighug:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 20th, 2016 10:04pm (May 20th 2016)
     
    So sorry, Debs. :heart:
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2016 9:37am (May 22nd 2016)
     
    So sorry Debs thinking of you all xxx
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd, 2016 10:50pm (May 23rd 2016)
     
    I'm so sorry you lost your little hen, Debs. :face-crying: