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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJul 18th, 2011 9:37pm (Jul 18th 2011)
     
    Try again Ronald - it sounds fascinating! Or tell us what to google to find it. I like sharks. We were going to take the grandkids to the Sealife Centre last Friday, but for 3 adults and a 3 year old it was £70! Shaun goes free (innocent of all crimes :wink: ) I know they need income to run the place, but it only takes an hour or so to go round so it seems pretty expensive. The zoo was cheaper and is a good half to full day out.
    • CommentAuthorRonald
    • CommentTimeJul 18th, 2011 11:48pm (Jul 18th 2011) edited
     
    Ok Kate, hope it works this time.

    Sharks...

    Click on the muitiview to view other cam views.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJul 19th, 2011 1:20pm (Jul 19th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    That's really cool Ron! I showed it to Lyle because he loves watching fish :bigsmile:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJul 19th, 2011 9:08pm (Jul 19th 2011)
     
    Love it! It loaded just as a HUGE shark swam past the lens and filled the picture. I thought it was fake at first! If you maximise it to fill the screen it looks like a screen saver. (There's a big stingray, oo, and the shark again! Back in a bit!)
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJul 19th, 2011 9:30pm (Jul 19th 2011)
     
    Ah, it was a shark close to the lens, not a huge shark! (unless there's a massive yellow and white fish that can miraculously get smaller when it swims away!) I'm fascinated!
    • CommentAuthorRonald
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd, 2011 12:28am (Jul 22nd 2011)
     
    I see there are divers in the shark tank aquarium again today. They're either feeding the fish or doing Maintenance.
    • CommentAuthorRonald
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd, 2011 1:36pm (Jul 22nd 2011) edited
     
    Swimming with Sharks
    The diver is holding onto the dorsail fin of the shark and going for a ride.
      Shark and Divers.jpg
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeJul 22nd, 2011 9:43pm (Jul 22nd 2011)
     
    That is amazing Ronald a great site.
    • CommentAuthorRonald
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd, 2011 9:54pm (Aug 2nd 2011)
     
    The girls have gone up to bed, the frog is look out at us from between the rocks at the pond and a mouse is foraging under the girls feeder in the run. I tried to get its picture but it ran off.
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd, 2011 2:07am (Aug 3rd 2011)
     
    The girls are asleep, the frog has gone someplace and the mouse is gone too..dang..I missed everything:face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd, 2011 11:24am (Aug 3rd 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    It's like a bloody zoo on here! :-D
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeAug 4th, 2011 7:41pm (Aug 4th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    All we need is Ron strutting around there!!! :tooth:
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeAug 4th, 2011 8:14pm (Aug 4th 2011) edited
     
    :mouse2: and I have watched for Mel for weeks then I miss seeing her!
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeAug 9th, 2011 11:03am (Aug 9th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Our Lilly has sent a second flower, bless it!

    There's also a large water-snail in the pond but you'll probably not see it ever - he/she is probably busy munching it's way through several month's worth of algae growth now :)
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeOct 4th, 2011 8:54pm (Oct 4th 2011)
     
    That lily is bent on engulfung the whole of Wilsden! But I expect the frosts will soon save the rest of the world.
    Lovely pics tonight. I just adore those sparkly lights. :coolgleamA:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 5th, 2011 9:30am (Oct 5th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Hmm, it's definitely more lily than pond at the moment!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeOct 7th, 2011 1:43am (Oct 7th 2011)
     
    Posted By: RedHmm, it's definitely more lily than pond at the moment!


    But it's beautiful!
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeOct 7th, 2011 2:05pm (Oct 7th 2011) edited
     
    Yes it is a real beauty, I wouldn't mind it in my pond!!!!
    • CommentAuthorRonald
    • CommentTimeOct 12th, 2011 6:22am (Oct 12th 2011) edited
     
    Buffy fetches Benson, the deaf black lab.

    Benson, a deaf black lab, can’t hear when his owner calls him. His pal Buffy, however, can. So what does Buffy do? Buffy gently grabs Benson by the collar in order to show him when it’s time to go in.

    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeOct 12th, 2011 7:32am (Oct 12th 2011)
     
    That is so lovely !!!!! :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeOct 12th, 2011 6:58pm (Oct 12th 2011)
     
    Ronald, what a brilliant bit of film! :heart:
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeOct 12th, 2011 7:21pm (Oct 12th 2011)
     
    Wow, that's wonderful, Ronald. :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorBellmactom
    • CommentTimeOct 12th, 2011 8:49pm (Oct 12th 2011)
     
    Fantastic film !
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeOct 12th, 2011 11:14pm (Oct 12th 2011)
     
    It's so lovely to see one animal helping another. It's not unusual in the animal world and even happens between what would normally be considered enemies. Thanks for sharing that Ronald!
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeOct 13th, 2011 9:07pm (Oct 13th 2011)
     
    That is a lovely film clip Ron and really touches your heart strings. Thank you for sharing it with us,
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd, 2011 7:30pm (Oct 22nd 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I found a dog quiz recently that's not amazing but it's quite good fun! Some of the questions are a bit dorky and the last question, about climate, for the UK put "not important" (the 'we have both hot and cold weather' answer means extreme hot and cold) as an answer.

    http://animal.discovery.com/breed-selector/dog-breeds/questionnaire/page1.html?q=1

    Anywhoo, my dog results were as followed:

    Best result, with a match of 99%, was a Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever.
    (a what now?! :laugh: )



    Sounds like it could be an okay dog for me, lots of exercise required, eager to learn. Cute too! Supposedly okay with other animals, but I don't see how it doesn't have a hunting instinct if that's what it was bred for? I asked for a minimal groom coat and it seems quite long-haired too.

    My other top results were:

    98% Brittany (possibly, just wouldn't want a dog with a v.high hunt drive)
    98% Italian Greyhound (YES!)
    98% Lab (meh)
    97% Australian Cattle Dog (like them apart from standoffish with other animals and the hunting again)
    97% Border Collie (love collies, but often sensitive and have a high chase drive!)
    97% Papillion (surprising for me I LOVE this breed!)
    97% Whippet (yes, yes, yes!)
    97% Pointer (I like Pointers but they have a high chase drive too, so maybe not for me)
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd, 2011 7:36pm (Oct 22nd 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Lyle's results were:

    match of 100%, a Lowchen
    (huh?!)

    He has decided he definitely wants one, even though there's not a chance he'd keep up with grooming :P It is playful but calm too, and responsive to commands. Some may bark or dig a lot though -__-



    his other 100% match was a Shih Tzu, which he is a fan of
    99% Bearded Collie
    99% Dachshund (miniature and standard)
    99% Miniature Schnauzer (we both love this breed!)
    98% Cairn Terrier (I'm a fan :bigsmile: )
    98% Collie
    98% Lhasa Apso(Lyle is desperate for a Lhasa!)

    He got a lot more too - I must be picker :laugh:
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd, 2011 8:22pm (Oct 22nd 2011)
     
    Mine said Toy Fox Terrier or Miniature Schnauzer, both of which I already have had in the past, it didn't say anything about a "Jack Russel Terrorist", which I have now however. (Terrorist was NOT a spelling mistake):face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd, 2011 11:21pm (Oct 22nd 2011)
     
    I came out with an English Cocker (96%), American Cocker (95%) and a Keeshond (95%), which I'd never heard of but looks like a lovely dog! Also a Brittany and a Pembroke Welsh Corgi. Not what I expected!
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd, 2011 7:41am (Oct 23rd 2011) edited
     
    These were my top 2

    Australian Terrier
      australian-terrier_01_lg.jpg
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd, 2011 7:43am (Oct 23rd 2011)
     
    Norwich Terrier.
      norwich-terrier_01_lg.jpg
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd, 2011 5:11pm (Oct 23rd 2011)
     
    Cocker spaniel with staffy as runner-up!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd, 2011 10:00pm (Oct 23rd 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Wow CC, you got Staffy! I wasn't even sure it was on there...I personally think me and a Staffy would be a 100% match :tooth:

    Lee, your dogs look very similar, and Kate it really things you like Cocker spaniels! How was your miniature Schnauzer Lynn? We both love the breed and have met quite a few, they seem like a fun breed to have! I've heard they need a lot of grooming and have strong chase instincts though...?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd, 2011 10:18pm (Oct 23rd 2011)
     
    That Norwich Terrier looks like a kid's stuffed toy!!!
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      CommentAuthorBellmactom
    • CommentTimeOct 24th, 2011 9:54am (Oct 24th 2011) edited
     
    I got Pharaoh hound......... Never heard of one

    Somewhat different to my usual choices, the last two dogs I've had have been a Bull Mastiff then an English Mastiff Rottie cross
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 24th, 2011 5:57pm (Oct 24th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Pharaoh hounds look cool but they're not a breed for me...high chase instincts (I really wouldn't be able to manage that; Kasper is hard enough!), no thanks, and they're quite an independent breed too aren't they?
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeOct 24th, 2011 7:03pm (Oct 24th 2011)
     
    Posted By: RedHow was your miniature Schnauzer Lynn? We both love the breed and have met quite a few, they seem like a fun breed to have! I've heard they need a lot of grooming and have strong chase instincts though...?


    Red, my little Schnauzer "Baby Bear" was a lovely little girl and never chased any of our other critters. They do require a lot of grooming. I learned to cut her hair myself. They are prone to diabetes and that is how I lost her, when she was 11yrs. old. She was raised by my Siamese cat and then she raised all of the cats that I had later on.
    They are wonderful little dogs.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 25th, 2011 8:28pm (Oct 25th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    She sounds lovely Lynn :) I've met a few miniature schnauzers and they've all been lovely; one was very gassy and barky though haha! I guess it's all down to early socialisation re:chasing, isn't it?

    I wonder if me or Lyle could learn how to clip one XD
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 28th, 2011 1:51pm (Oct 28th 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    For anybody with pets out there who are scared of fireworks, or for puppies and other youngsters where early socialisation might help, I found this link with a file of firework noises that you can play. You can start off very quiet, and gradually increase the volume to see how bothered the animal is. You could also associate the noise with good things, playtime and treats for example.

    http://www.dogsandfireworks.com/downloads/ fireworks.mp3
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 28th, 2011 2:04pm (Oct 28th 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    The link itself wouldn't post, but you can just copy the entire link and delete the space between '/' and 'fireworks' :)
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeOct 28th, 2011 3:10pm (Oct 28th 2011)
     
    Fantastic thank you Red :face-smile::face-smile:
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeOct 29th, 2011 9:42am (Oct 29th 2011)
     
    Lovely sight late one evening. Two rabbits playing on the public grass corner opposite here. They were bobbing about for over an hour before I went to bed.
    Two nights later they were there again.
    They seem to be pets of a house on the edge of the grass. They are free to come and go out of their hutch at any time. I watched them touch noses with a local cat. So sweet.
    Their owner felt they would take evasive action when the fox passes by.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeOct 29th, 2011 6:59pm (Oct 29th 2011)
     
    The fox wouldn't pass by - take it from someone who learned by bitter experience! Get the owner to lock them up by dark.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 30th, 2011 7:18pm (Oct 30th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    No probs Lee. I'm not sure how well it works, but it's always worth a try! How is Dodger with fireworks, have you had any yet?

    That's cute Ollie, but dangerous for the rabbits! Not only foxes but any dogs that get walked there might see food too tasty to refuse!
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeOct 31st, 2011 4:18pm (Oct 31st 2011)
     
    Posted By: RedHow is Dodger with fireworks, have you had any yet?


    They have only just really started Red so we will see
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeOct 31st, 2011 4:47pm (Oct 31st 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    We've had them for a good few weeks here, so annoying...they started before my birthday! :001_rolleyes:
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeNov 20th, 2011 4:28pm (Nov 20th 2011)
     
    I'm watching the tv station "Al Jazeera" again.
    There are some very violent scenes. It's dreadful that folks are so aggressive to each other.
    I am also concerned that the Cairo Museum is right there with the Tutankhamen collection.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeNov 20th, 2011 4:57pm (Nov 20th 2011)
     
    I know, it's depressing, isn't it? And some priceless treasures went missing in the last riots. My friend's daughter lives around the corner from a big square in Cairo where much of the rioting was - very worrying.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeDec 27th, 2011 8:58pm (Dec 27th 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I've been dithering about where to put this for ages but it's not worth starting a new thread so I'll bung it here...

    Kate, did you used to have a Jenny Rat Cage for your ratties?

    We're looking into cages and have a few that we like...I ruled the Jenny out because

    a) I'd heard some bad reviews about it, that it was a pain to clean and the doors into the cage were stupidly small
    b) it's quite large for a pair, especially young ones that feel more secure in a packed out cage
    c) I've heard that the bars aren't coated and so just rust. That would really annoy me if I'd spent a lot on a cage!

    If you used it Kate, what did you think of it?? Or do you know anyone who's had one and has loved / hated it?!

    I'm stuck between a few cages at the moment...there's one Jenny in West Yorkshire in driving distance (the others are miles away or all down south!) that I'm keeping an eye on - £15 at the moment! - and if it stays under £30 I'll get it no matter if that bars rust!

    Aside from that there's an 80 Rigby cage that's a good size and looks like this (bigger than it looks, calculator says enough for 3 rats):

    The bars aren't horizontal is my only dig with that; we could easy add hammocks and platforms.

    And a Haven cage big enough for 2 rats which is nice looking, but I'm not sure about the pull-out tray for chewing, or if I'd want boys in something a little bigger:


    I'm keeping an eye out for a Savic Freddy 2 as well, but not holding my breath for any close enough...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 27th, 2011 11:23pm (Dec 27th 2011)
     
    I did have an original Jenny and yes, the doors were stupidly small and it was difficult to clean (especially if the rats were skittish) but it was a good size for 2 rats and meant I could put in shelves, ladders and hammocks etc to give them plenty to play on. Also, I have always used fleece on the bottom and a litter tray which makes cleaning out much easier. They completely changed the Jenny last year though, and it now has coated bars, better doors, and is much improved, so check which version is being sold. (I still have my version 1 Jenny in the shed!)

    I have never heard of the Rigby cage, but I wouldn't say it looks suitable for rats, and I have no knowledge of the Haven either, but that base doesn't look like it'd stand up to much chewing!!!

    There are a lot of people that have new cages for christmas and put the old ones on ebay and such like, so don't rush into buying something. Also look out for bird cages - some of them are suitable.

    This is an excellent forum for reviews etc. They've closed this forum now and moved to a new one, but there's very little on that so this is a better bet.

    http://www.fancy-rats.co.uk/community/index.php

    Lots of good advice too and pictures of set ups. Personally I don't believe a cage can be too big!!!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeDec 28th, 2011 9:21am (Dec 28th 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Hmm, I think it's the old style Jenny (not sure) but there are just two doors on the front and they are very small...it still might be worth it if it stays under £30 though.

    The Rigby cage is much bigger than it looks; the platform in there is about 40cmx25cm, and the cage has the same dimensions as the Freddy 2 but is 13cm smaller in height. I also like the big doors and deep base tray as well. And the bar spacing is nice and small.

    I had the same concern with the Haven...on other photos you can see the base of the cage and the pull out trays have a raised lip around the side I think which would definitely promote chewing!! You can see here:



    It's so annoying because from Stoke downwards there are loads of Jenny's and Freddy's being sold for £10 - £20, collection only, and I used to live in Stoke!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 28th, 2011 11:18pm (Dec 28th 2011)
     
    The Haven also looks like it has a wire mesh floor which isn't good for a rat, but the vertical bars on the Rigby are a downside. Also those clips don't look very sturdy. A clever rat will have them undone in no time!! LOL!!

    The Abode is an excellent cage - very good size but will be very difficult to find 2nd hand unless you're lucky and quick! Bars are vertical but overall everything else outweighs that.

    You are quite handy with your cages etc, you could always link 2 cages together - there are some inventive concoctions on the link I sent you!

    One other tip - if you are going to put wooden shelves etc in the cage spray them with plasticote (or similar) first. It will protect them from the urine. I have heard of people plasticoting the old Jenny's too but don't know how successful that is.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 29th, 2011 2:52pm (Dec 29th 2011)
     
    What's wrong with vertical bars? Is it because they can't climb them?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 30th, 2011 12:30am (Dec 30th 2011)
     
    They can climb them, it's just harder. Young rats have no problem but as they get older and slower it's more difficult. Bit like us and the stairs!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeDec 30th, 2011 6:25pm (Dec 30th 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Erm...I did something yesterday I never did before...I spent all my Christmas money instead of saving it :tooth:

    So, I blew all my money on a brand spanking new rat cage :smile: And a load of treats for Pearl, and a load of chews and an expensive puzzle feeder for the dog...I love my babies :bigsmile:

    I only spent my money because my friend was spending all his Christmas money though - it was burning a hole in his pocket! He was spending it on all things he didn't even want and need, so I thought at least my money was going towards something I wanted...it was the only excuse I could think of so I didn't feel guilty :blush:

    It's the Furet Plus...it's AWESOME! These pics are after we just set it up so it's all bare...it has an extra home-made hammock, climbing rope, platform box on the side, and two log tunnels in now.

    It's an awesome design...the door is massive and has special locks for rats, the whole top lifts up for easy cleaning, the bars are horizontal...I love it!
      xmas16.jpg
      xmas17.jpg
      xmas18.jpg
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 30th, 2011 6:47pm (Dec 30th 2011)
     
    As long as you're pleased with it; it's what Crimbo money is for!! :)
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeDec 30th, 2011 6:51pm (Dec 30th 2011)
     
    Great stuff, Red.
    Isn't it lovely to splash out like that? Must have been fun. You'll live on that rush for a long time.
    Sensible buys too. You can put Lyle in that cage when he doesn't behave.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 30th, 2011 6:53pm (Dec 30th 2011)
     
    Ooo Oliie, you wicked woman..:D
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 30th, 2011 11:39pm (Dec 30th 2011)
     
    That is a great cage Red! Well liked by most rat owners. Think its the same sort of size as a Jenny but much better access.

    I see it has a corner litter tray too! The best 'stuff' I found for it was called Critter Litter. It looks like cat litter (but it isn't), absorbs well and does keep the smell down if you can get them to use it. Perseverance is the key!

    Christmas money is meant to be spent on what you want, not what you need, so if spending it on those items made you happy then I'm sure those that gave it you will be happy too!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeDec 31st, 2011 1:05pm (Dec 31st 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I read all positive reviews, and just decided to go for it...

    I don't think I'm gonna try litter train the ratties, I'm just gonna have the tray as a little extra ledge. Unless I buy another smaller litter tray. The red one has clips so it can hang from the side of the cage, at the moment it's hanging from the very top.

    Just have to wait patiently now...I wanted to put Pearl in it for a play, but she's getting on a bit now and I don't want her to fall!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeDec 31st, 2011 1:34pm (Dec 31st 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    This is the cage now all set up in the dog's bedroom...Kasper wanted to join in...he's been very curious with the rat cage and had to help us unpack it and check all the bits were in working order!
      xmas22.jpg
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      xmas24.jpg
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeDec 31st, 2011 6:44pm (Dec 31st 2011)
     
    That is really nice Red the Rolls Royce of rat cages Cannot wait to see the rat in it :face-smile:
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeJan 1st, 2012 6:16am (Jan 1st 2012)
     
    Beautiful cage, Red!!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJan 1st, 2012 1:13pm (Jan 1st 2012)
     
    The AA give it 5 star rating!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 1st, 2012 7:47pm (Jan 1st 2012)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thanks everyone :tooth:

    It's really hard to get a good photo of it as it's in the dog's bedroom which is very narrow. Not sure it'll stay up there when the ratties are in it or if they'll move to the front room, we'll see.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJan 1st, 2012 11:35pm (Jan 1st 2012)
     
    If the litter tray has the sort of clips I think it has, be careful of it falling when hit from below by a climbing ratty! I used to have to put mine on a shelf or the base because that's what would happen otherwise! Litter training my girls was easy - they worked out for themselves that they could wee in there (and then, of course, sleep in it!)

    Ikea do BIG CHEAP blue fleece blankets for about £1.50. They wash quickly and easily and dry really quick if you decide to line the bottom with them.

    The cage looks fantastic and they are going to love it! Lots of the things you made for Bam and Pearl will be great for them too. A great toy is a cat tickler - the long stick with feathers on the end. It seems most rats just love to chase it and kill it!

    The only thing I'd suggest for the cage is a 2nd water bottle. They fail quite often so its always good to have a back-up. I used to have one with water and one with a vitamin drink in it (I could only get it from the internet - pet shops don't sell it despite what they'll try to sell you!) It was yellow powder and you just put a tiny bit in water. I miss my rats sooo much and can't wait to see pictures of your boys when they arrive!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd, 2012 12:07am (Jan 2nd 2012) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thanks for the input and handy hints Kate!

    I'll have to check the litter tray clips out, as that could very well be an issue. We could perhaps secure it on somehow too I guess. It was a nightmare to attach to the bars but I bet you're right, one small tap and it'd come loose! :tooth:

    We just heard from the breeder and got some good and not-so-good news...first off the two males that became unreserved are still unreserved, so are available to us (yippee!) but also the breeder is having a marital breakdown...must be a horrible time for them, but I feel lucky as we'll be getting some of the last rats from them - at least for a while! She's already sorted out 'foster' homes (with relatives) for her adult rats until she gets more settled.

    Anywhoo, as of this coming Friday 'our' (potential!) rats are available. Only problem is we want the floor to be fixed before they arrive because of the chemicals - we're already having to move us, Kasper, Pearl and the hissers to our friends'! - so the breeder might have to try and hold them for us for a little while. She wants their new home sorted ASAP so the babies aren't any more disturbed than they have to be by going to family members' houses, and we're going to see how quickly we can get the floor sorted...!

    I'm glad I bought the cage and had it all set up early now - and my parents thought I was stupid; I was just psychic!
    • CommentAuthorTrevs Mum
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd, 2012 5:00am (Jan 2nd 2012)
     
    New babies Red that will be exciting. Hope the floor is fixed asap for you.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd, 2012 11:27am (Jan 2nd 2012) edited
     

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    We contacted the floor man today (hehe) and he said he would do Thursday. Hopefully that will tie in okay.

    Two of these are our potential babies. They were almost 3 weeks old in this pic. We've asked the breeder what colour they are, so after that we may be able to guess! :smile:

    PS ~ that isn't their nursery cage (that's the one in the background!) it's just for the photo shoot!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd, 2012 12:33pm (Jan 2nd 2012)
     
    The little grey and white one reminds me of Pearl!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd, 2012 8:10pm (Jan 2nd 2012)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Pearl says "noooo I am a hamster not a dirty rat!"
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    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd, 2012 10:30pm (Jan 2nd 2012)
     
    The Grey and white one looks like dear old Bam!!!!!!!!!!! God bless him.

    Red they look fantastic i love them,i want one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd, 2012 10:37pm (Jan 2nd 2012) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I've always wanted a black rat, but I don't mind what colour I end up with :)

    Found some more rat 'toys' at the supermarket today...a lot of rat toys are stupidly expensive, so I'm mainly trying to make my own or buy cheap things that can be used as toys!

    So far we have a wooden wine rack coming, a baby's bib which I've attached to the bars of the cage as a feeder, and a christmas decoration in the shape of a heart!

    It's starting to look nicely furnished now :smile: Also, I checked the litter tray...it's so well attached it's never coming off I don't think!! It seems to be safe from rat head-butts anyway :P
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd, 2012 11:35pm (Jan 2nd 2012)
     
    I've always wanted a black rat too! And there's a lovely blue one in there by the looks of it!

    The bib is a fantastic idea, and I've seen the wine rack thingy too used in rat play areas and they love them. My girls favourite was cheap tissues - 23p a box in sainsburys. They would run to the door and take them one by one back to their nest. I used to have to stop giving them to them when it got to about 20! They'd spend the night tearing them up and bedding them in to make room for the next lot the following night. Another one was to put a cheap Ikea (again!) cotton tea towel on the top of the cage for them to try to pull through the bars. Amazing how they'd work it out and get it through.

    Have you thought of any names yet or are you waiting until you see them? Well done to the 'floor man' for doing the job quickly!
    • CommentAuthorTrevs Mum
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd, 2012 5:49am (Jan 3rd 2012)
     
    Glad the florr will be fixed soon Red. They are very sweet little babies and what a great set up for them.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd, 2012 12:20pm (Jan 3rd 2012) edited
     

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    Thanks Kate and TM!

    The blue one is female I think...plenty of the black ones are bucks though so the chances are I could get one!! I'll share with you if I do ;)

    The tissues are a great idea. I saw someone's cage with toilet roll hung up in it, so they could unravel the tissue and pull bits off. I thought that was a good idea, too. I was quite impressed with the bib; I'd gone in search of nappy bags for the dog (couple of quid cheaper than poo bags!) and the bibs were only £1 and I thought I could use it as something to climb on or a feeding trough. Oh we have loads of old tea towels they can use...

    We have a few names but don't know what we'll pick till we see them...my pets usually end up with a name I hadn't even thought of before seeing them :smile:

    Okto
    Tal
    Prawn
    Yoda
    Banjo
    Hart
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd, 2012 8:21pm (Jan 3rd 2012)
     
    Its all getting very exciting Red I cant wait Hart is a fantastic name i love it :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd, 2012 9:29pm (Jan 3rd 2012)
     
    The pound shop is a great place for pet toys isn't it! You are really good at thinking past the norm and seeing the potential in things. I used tissues because they were cheaper and more controllable than toilet paper. I tried that but they weren't interested strangely enough!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJan 4th, 2012 3:54pm (Jan 4th 2012)
     
    Banjo is an excellent name (horrible 'instrument' though...:rolling: )and so is Prawn. Banjo & Prawn...sounds like a Jermyn Street tailors' from the 18th century!
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeJan 4th, 2012 6:02pm (Jan 4th 2012)
     
    Oooh new ratties that sounds like fun........... my puss cats said they wouldn't mind having a couple apiece as well :face-devil-grin:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 4th, 2012 11:26pm (Jan 4th 2012) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Posted By: nanny northOooh new ratties that sounds like fun........... my puss cats said they wouldn't mind having a couple apiece as well


    Kasper too!!! ;) Thanks forr the comments all.

    I'm slightly...erm, tipsy!...now, but I just wanted to share the photos fo our rats! Say hello to our babies :smile:

    We have *kind of* named them after seeing their pics. (Banjo and Okto are our potentials)! I am so chuffed we have seen 'our' babies :tooth:
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    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeJan 5th, 2012 12:17am (Jan 5th 2012)
     
    OMG they are so cute..you got the one I liked the best in to pictures..the hooded boy with the strip down his back..woo hoo!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJan 5th, 2012 6:04pm (Jan 5th 2012)
     
    Beautiful!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 5th, 2012 6:52pm (Jan 5th 2012)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thanks both :) I really want to pick them up this weekend, so hoping we can...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJan 5th, 2012 11:05pm (Jan 5th 2012)
     
    They are beautiful, especially the 2nd one!!! Think he's called 'blazed' because he has the white stripe on his head. If he's roan he'll gradually turn whiter as he ages. My Molly was a blue roan, and by the time she died at 13 months she had lost quite a bit of her colour. If they live long enough they apparently turn completely white! Will be interesting to watch Okto and see how he changes - am looking forward to all of the photos!!!!!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 6th, 2012 3:03pm (Jan 6th 2012) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Ah, I didn't realise they could totally lose the colour! I thought it just faded...that'd be so cool to start with a black rat and end up with a white :smile:

    Very interesting - did you notice it happening over time or only when you looked back at old photos?

    We may be getting them tomorrow :blush: We're picking them up around 2pm...I think my dad's secretly excited because he immediately offered us a lift. Either that or he's just kind hearted hahaha :tooth:
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeJan 6th, 2012 6:35pm (Jan 6th 2012)
     
    Your Rats are Brilliant Red I love them and i want them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :face-smile: :face-smile: :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJan 6th, 2012 11:15pm (Jan 6th 2012)
     
    With Molly i would realise that her grey bits had more white hairs in amongst them, but it is as they age and as she was only with me until 13 months she hadn't lost that much colour. I think if they live a long time they can change colour completely, but as they have short life spans they don't often get to that stage. With a black rat he'll probably just look like he's going grey from age!

    I reckon your dad is both excited AND kind hearted. Plus he wants to get a cuddle with a cute liddul baybee rattee!!!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 7th, 2012 11:39am (Jan 7th 2012) edited
     

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    Thanks Lee, we can't wait! Only a few hours now!! :)

    That's funny Kate, it's weird to think of a black rat turning white! Do you know why it happens? When I told my dad we were getting rats he was all "Ugh why would you want to get them again?" (he was discouraged by our last pair; fair enough) then I showed him the pic and he said, "They are v.cute"...and then when I said we were picking them up today, he offered a lift straight away :tooth:

    We have the cage all ready, and the transport tub...I'm putting the food and water in soon, can't help but feel excited.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 7th, 2012 1:51pm (Jan 7th 2012)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    My dad came in his smart car so only one of us could go!! :( Gotta wait even longer now and Lyle gets to see them first :closedeyes:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 7th, 2012 3:46pm (Jan 7th 2012) edited
     

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    Eeeeh I've seen them! :cheer: They are the most gorgeous ratties I have ever seen! They came right onto my hands for cuddles and Banjo in particular is very licky (we are keeping Banjo and Okto as their names, they suit them :smile: ). After we'd handled them for about 15 minutes we decided they should move into their new home as Banjo was falling asleep on Lyle's arm!!

    I've never had breeder rats before, usually I have to put a lot of work into hand taming them but these guys are lovely :bigsmile:

    They were very happy in the cage, and when I went up to put the stuffing from the travel tub in with them they hopped onto the cage door and started coming out again!! We've rat-proofed the bathroom for a playtime tomorrow, and will have cuddle time on the couch too...apologies for the photos, Lyle is to inpatient to wait for crisp photos :P
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    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeJan 7th, 2012 7:00pm (Jan 7th 2012)
     
    OH Red...they are soooooo cute!!!:face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJan 7th, 2012 7:42pm (Jan 7th 2012)
     
    Wonderful - lucky thing!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 7th, 2012 8:25pm (Jan 7th 2012)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thanks both! I think I'm gonna start a new thread for them, otherwise I'll just flood this one with pics :blush:
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeJan 7th, 2012 10:50pm (Jan 7th 2012)
     
    Oh Red they are so lovely please keep the pictures coming i love them !!!!!!!!!!!!! you must be so pleased with them :face-smile: :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJan 8th, 2012 9:18pm (Jan 8th 2012)
     
    Gorgeous babies Red!!! (I am so JEALOUS!!!!):rocking:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 9th, 2012 1:09pm (Jan 9th 2012)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I will do Lee, you don't have to worry about that!! :tooth:
    Ha, I'll post plenty of pics Kate! :)
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeJan 13th, 2012 9:54pm (Jan 13th 2012) edited
     
    I feel some Rats coming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :face-devil-grin:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 14th, 2012 11:30pm (Jan 14th 2012)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    You should get some rats Lee, I think you'd like them lots!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeJan 15th, 2012 5:25am (Jan 15th 2012)
     
    I wish I could get a little rat, but Don would have a nervous breakdown if he saw it. pooh!:face-sad: