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    • CommentAuthorPam
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 7:00pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    I went to the garden centre today to find 'pure breed chickens' for sale £29.99 each or 3 for £70. Small hen houses also available. There were several types of chickens but no visable information on their care. I very nearly bought the lot!!
    A sad day for me ( not enough money and lots of foxes and badgers + 1 maine coon cat ) in my garden. Surely people must have a liscence ( can't spell that) to keep chickens?
    Pam
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 7:22pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    Nope, sadly not, any more than you need a licence for a cat/dog/elk/dinosaur.
    • CommentAuthorPam
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 7:32pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    That is so sad. How can people buy living creatures without knowing how to care for them.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 7:35pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    Made me cross when I got a rabbit from the RSPCA; woman with a clipboard came round and said the hutch was too small (even though they only sleep in it and are loose in the garden the rest of the day), so we had to get a bigger one or lose the rabbit. Whereas if I'd got a rabbit from a petshop, I could've kept it in a matchbox 28 hours a day and nobody would've said anything...
    • CommentAuthorPam
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 7:39pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    So sad.
    I see that Milly is in her absolutely brilliant element tonight.She is my favourite.
    There were a couple of Milly chickens there. Would anyone consider a mass breakout?
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      CommentAuthorTori
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 7:42pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    Aw thats not fairrr. When I look outside my bedroom window , all I see are 2 lovely rabbits next door one white and the other light brown oh and I also see a black and white cat called jemima hehe lying on the grass and eating some.
    • CommentAuthorPam
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 7:47pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    Nev, my rescue cat( He rescued us) follows me everywhere like dog. He had been abused by a man before he adopted us. What differnce would 20 + chickens make? Nev likes to watch birds but he doesn't chase them.
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      CommentAuthorTori
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 7:50pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    Thats like my cat. Follows me around everywhere , scratching on my door at night so she can sleep on my bed and shes never caught a wriggling moving thing ever ! Well except for this caterpillar thing urgh it made me sick !
    • CommentAuthorPam
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 8:01pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    Sleep on your bed! Nev wants feeding 3 am. or stroking 4 am. Lets get up 5 am.luckily he sits on my hubby's chest until he wakes up (6.1 kg) and gets up to feed him. Maine coons are meant to be big or so he tells us.Today I saw chickens peck at each other and screech when pecked I really didn't like that.
    Someone tried to give me 2 swans once. They can navigate their way home very very quickly. He is still looking for a home for them. ( 6 years later!)
    • CommentAuthorPam
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 8:06pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    He also tried to give me 2 peacocks.?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 8:18pm (May 9th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    £29.99!! :o We were lucky with Milly, got her from the Ostrich-less farm for £5 :rolling:

    Not many people care about chickens though. Look at how battery hens are treated! And chickens are the only animals that don't have any tranportation regulations - basically means they can be driven for miles in a van with no stops for water or food, whereas with other animals you have to stop every so many hours. It's something like that anyway :-\
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 11:09pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    We used to need a licence to keep a dog. Two shillings and six pence a year. (That's equal to an eighth of a pound OR twelve and a half of today's pence)
    Eventually it cost more than that to collect so they scrapped it.
    You can, however still be banned from owning a dog if your are found guilty of being very nasty to them.
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2008 11:10pm (May 9th 2008)
     
    On a radio programme today they said it takes one point six kilo of feed to produce one kilo of chicken meat.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 10th, 2008 1:50pm (May 10th 2008) edited
     
    I don't know what a kilo is, but I'm damn sure that my two have eaten more than 1.6 of 'em in chicken feed, but neither of 'em would weigh a kilo, I reckon...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 10th, 2008 5:12pm (May 10th 2008)
     
    When I got Molly (the rat) I was asked if I knew what I was doing and did I want a leaflet. That's as much as they care.
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeMay 10th, 2008 7:02pm (May 10th 2008)
     
    Wow, Pam...70 pounds for 3 chickens!!!..let's see that would be over $140 in USA dollars < passing out > < flopping over onto the floor > You're joking right?..they can't be THAT expensive over there can they?...GAWD! < passing out again >:shocked::shocked:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 10th, 2008 11:38pm (May 10th 2008)
     
    Probably, because the people that buy from garden centres won't know what the price would be if they bought elsewhere. They're banking on 'impulse buy' I would think. Seems to be a new trend - I'd never seen chickens at a garden centre until 3 weeks ago.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 12:22pm (May 11th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    In one of the chicken books i've got it does say expect to pay £20-25 for a pure-breed chicken :confused:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 12:28pm (May 11th 2008)
     
    I paid a lot for Livia, but she is - aparently - a fine specimen:shocked: and I gave Sam (who kindly got her for me from the auction) a ceiling price. Frizzles are relatively hard to get hold of - it took me a LOT of calls before I ran Sam to ground!
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 3:10pm (May 11th 2008)
     
    So just what is the 'normal' price for a bog-standard chicken, please?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 3:11pm (May 11th 2008)
     
    £2.99 in Tesco. (Sorry, sorry, sorry, couldn't resist!!!)
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      CommentAuthorTori
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 3:13pm (May 11th 2008)
     
    :rolling: haaaaaaahaaa hehehe :rolling:

    I hope its free range !
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 3:14pm (May 11th 2008)
     
    Not for that price!! (Actually, I don't know the real price - I made that up - but they'd double it for free range that's for sure!)
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      CommentAuthorTori
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 3:14pm (May 11th 2008)
     
    Its worth it though !!
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 3:27pm (May 11th 2008)
     
    Can't remember last time I ate chicken. I am not veggie, just don't find any flavour in it.
    Maybe that's 'cos I was getting the cheepo ones!


    I once sent a tin of chick soup back to manufacturer as the 'meat' was absolutely unchewable - and I did really try. They never even acknowledged my effort.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 5:41pm (May 11th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I dunno, Ollie. I can't remember how much our BSL girls cost...at twelve/thirteen i was too young to care 'cos my parents were paying! Milly cost £5, and i know that battery hens bought from the farmer usually cost 50p - £1.50!

    I'm sure Livia is worth that bit more, she is beautiful. Have you found any more hidden eggs yet, CC? :)
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      CommentAuthorTori
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 5:42pm (May 11th 2008)
     
    50 p ??? wow I want a hen but im not alllowed
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 5:45pm (May 11th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Yes, some farmers will give you the 'spent' battery hens for free, but most ask for a small price. They'll still lay you the odd egg, too, maybe four or five a week if you're lucky...but no, to the farmers they are 'spent' and all they're good for is soups, school dinners, babyfood...
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 7:01pm (May 11th 2008) edited
     
    Well not really, Kate; she's just laying them in the rabbit hutch all the time. Except for 2 days ago, when I found one in the middle of the lawn. I don't know if that's because the rabbit hutch door had blown shut and she couldn't get in there, or if she laid it in the hen coop and a passing squirrel did a raid which got interrupted somehow...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 9:13pm (May 11th 2008)
     
    Er, thanks for that, but it was Red that asked!! LOL!!! Are the rabbits in there when she lays?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 11th, 2008 10:00pm (May 11th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    :rolling: :fingersear:

    That must be quite exiting though...like at Easter when you have an egg hunt :bigsmile:
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2008 11:36am (May 12th 2008)
     

    no longer a member

    Wazza says.... (He is back if you had not noticed).. we have a garden centre near Milton Keynes on the A5 that sells chickens too
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2008 1:36pm (May 12th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I have noticed, you have been posting 'I AM BACK!!' messages everywhere :D :updown:

    Good to have you back though :thumbup:
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2008 2:00pm (May 12th 2008)
     

    no longer a member

    who me ?????? well i want everyone to know I am back incase they missed any of my posts lol :hugging:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2008 3:26pm (May 12th 2008)
     
    Sorry Kate; heat's addling my brain. I HATE IT....I want it to snow... :(
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2008 3:56pm (May 12th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I suppose (and I'm possibly just been very anti-meat industry here!) that you couldn't really moan at the garden centre for selling chickens, as even if someone didn't know how to look after them bought them, they'd

    a) probably pick it up quite quickly and be prepared to put some time and effort (especially with the investment it cost), and

    b) it wouldn't be any worse treatment than the poor sods get when intensively farmed, or the poor broilers etc....

    If the chicks were broilers they'd be dead and eaten by now... :(

    It does seem strange that garden centres and not pet stores would sell chickens, it seems they don't see chickens as pets.

    Charles, a work colleague collected something on Friday from the house and I showed him the hens, Tilly wasn't scared at all and he was amazed how this big lump of feathers acted affectionately and came over for a stroke - and he left with some eggs for his tea - he was telling everyone at work this morning how amazing they were as pets...
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2008 4:35pm (May 12th 2008)
     
    I knew nowt (as you know to your cost, Neil!) when I first got my two, and I only had them to save Onion from the chop. But it's amazing a) how easy they are to keep, and b) what terrific characters they are...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2008 7:39pm (May 12th 2008)
     
    With the advent of the interweb a lot of pet owning is easier. I've found out stuff about rats on line, but sometimes you get too much info and someone will tell you NEVER to give them the treat they just ate, and NEVER to use whatever you have as flooring, and you MUST spend 4 hours a day with 'it' or it'll be depressed. Just to make you believe you're a bad owner. All they really need is food, water, a safe place to sleep, and a kind person. Its just getting the RIGHT food, water, and place to sleep that's a problem!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2008 7:39pm (May 12th 2008)
     
    Neil that's a horrible thought - that if the chicks were 'commercial' they'd be our plate by now. :(
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2008 11:14pm (May 12th 2008) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Sorry, wasn't trying to "guilt trip" you.


    Just modern farming etc etc...

    incidentally Scarlet just had to more or less rock one of the chicks to sleep like a baby (think it was one of the boys!) - as we're getting them used to the temperatures outside, they spend the day outdoors and come inside for the night (without the heat-lamp) - poor things were freaked out a bit by the dark - it's the first times they've seen it so it must have come as a bit of a shock.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 1:56pm (May 13th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I have some bad news for you as well dad, people on BYC are saying 7 weeks is too early when it's 44F outside...they say wait until 8 weeks. I'm thinking no, leave them out Friday night maybe?

    There was a website that was really good, like a timeline / life cycle of a chicken. And it told you what age a chick starts producing enough body heat to keep itself warm in the cold and i've lost it!! I'm sure it was 7 weeks though...
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 5:31pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    Our older chicks are around 6 weeks or so. We hope to move them out this weekend because they are crowded in the house. We're getting their area in the small barn ready now. The temps have been in the 40's at night here as well so we may have to heat them with a heat lamp. Hoping it gets warmer next week. Let me know how it goes for you!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 8:14pm (May 13th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    You too, sweetpea! What breed are your babies?

    They're still coming in for the night, and stressing majorly when we bring them in to their old small brooder. They have a bucket in their to perch on, but it's not as nice and exciting as their outdoor coop. The weather seems to be getting colder, too. If it stays warm i might try leaving them out overnight on Friday - will let you know what happens :)
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 9:29pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    Sounds good-hope to have ours out for good on Saturday. We put 3 perches in the very large box my hubby constructed for them. At least that helps with the space. Sometimes all 10 of them are perched-all squished in. ;-)
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 9:32pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    I think we have 1 Aracauna chick also! She's a brown hen (I hope she's a hen) with wonderful markings on her feathers. She's very sweet and friendly.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 9:36pm (May 13th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Are you planning to put a heatlamp in with them? I have no idea what to do with our chicks...it's impossible to fix a heatlamp into the sleeping box in their coop, but we can't keep bringing them in at night. I'm looking for any tips on what to do with 'em, will be interesting to see how yours get on.

    Our chicks love perching too...Sunny is perching on the 4ft high wire mesh that surrounds their indoor brooder. Just hope she doesn't fall :-\
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 9:52pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    We may have to get a heat lamp. The room they are in now is still quite warm because the week old chicks are in there with the lamp on always. So it will be quite a shock to not have the heat. They will be in a small building that we have the other animals in. It's about the size of a 2 car garage. We are making a temporary "stall" with wire around it. For their permanent spot, we are enclosing an area that is currently a goat stall, for the coop and then we'll move the 2 goats into the stall we are putting the chicks in first. Fortunately, there is a lot of old wood and even a screen door in our big barn, that my husband has been using for supplies. We bought some wire fencing and we'll have to buy more for their area outside. It's turned into quite a job. Do you have pine shavings or bedding down for the chicks outside?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 9:56pm (May 13th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Wow, that sounds complicated but a good set up for your chicks, Sweetpea!

    We have pine shavings in their sleeping compartment (an old nest box) along with some straw. Outside they are on flagstones with several inches of compost dirt scattered over them. They can be quite difficult to look after can't they, chicks? My dad thought it would be easy and he could just shove the chicks in a section of the rabbit run where the other three lived, but a) the others got eaten by a fox :o and b) it'd be far too small for five fast-growing chicks!

    So he ended up having to build an entirely new coop where they could stay until they could be let out for supervised free-ranging!! He's done very well though, to say he's terrible at DIY ;)
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 10:02pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    I saw your dad working one night when the camera was on him. He did great! It sounds like they should be warm enough...can you cover it with anything at night? An old blanket or something?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 10:03pm (May 13th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Oooh, good idea! We could close the nest box where they will be sleeping, and then cover the mesh window with a blanket to try and keep the heat in...thanks Sweetpea! :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 10:03pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    my pleasure ;-)
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 10:23pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    Chick
    I am trying to post a photo...I hope it works....it's of one of our new chicks!
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 10:24pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    Sorry...it's a giant chick! ;-(
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 10:56pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    I want one!!!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2008 11:06pm (May 13th 2008)
     
    Its a gorgeous, sweet little chick! Beautiful!!

    Hey Red, don't know if you've got blankets etc., but we have a shop near us called Au Natural (they're all over the country so you might have) and they sell really big fleece blankets for £3. I got a couple for the rats.
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 12:07am (May 14th 2008)
     
    At first when I posted it, the pic was huge...I don't know if someone fixed it but it's much better now...she's a cutie!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 6:36am (May 14th 2008)
     
    SweetPea, your chick is just darling.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 8:22am (May 14th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Sweetpea, what a beauty! That pic is brilliant :heartsabove:
    • CommentAuthorCake
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 12:29pm (May 14th 2008)
     
    Wow, its cute. It would look well being brought up by the attack of the 40ft woman ..woman.

    Cool pic. Cant beat a little chick pic
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 2:12pm (May 14th 2008)
     
    So on my pc at work, the picture is huge but at home the picture is just the right size. I'm wondering what other people are getting...a giant chick or a normal chick?
    • CommentAuthorCake
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 2:14pm (May 14th 2008)
     
    Its fine, really, just joshing with ya. Its a god size actually. Nice and clear. My dad just loves Sweet peas. They smell gorgeous. What colour are you?
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 4:58pm (May 14th 2008)
     
    Cake, where have you BEEEEEEEN???
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 6:45pm (May 14th 2008)
     
    Whenever I post a picture it always looks HUGE to me but OK to everyone else. And likewise on my computer at work/home - the other one to where I posted it shows it OK.
    • CommentAuthorSweetPea
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 9:42pm (May 14th 2008)
     
    Thanks Kateb...that's just what happened to me! ;-)
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 5:38am (May 15th 2008)
     
    What a darling little chick! Thanks for posting the photo. :D
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 10:07pm (May 15th 2008)
     
    I went to our local garden centre tonight. Silkie hens were £35 (but already locked up for the night so didn't see them), cocks were cheaper - £20 I think. They also had some bantams - Pekin? - hens were £25 and the cock £15 or £20.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeMay 16th, 2008 6:49am (May 16th 2008)
     
    Ah! I think I have the answer to my previously posted question Kate!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 16th, 2008 8:36am (May 16th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I didn't realise quite how expensive chickens actually are... :o
    • CommentAuthorCake
    • CommentTimeMay 16th, 2008 11:46am (May 16th 2008)
     
    Hi CC. I am back now for a while. I flit and float like a flitty floaty thing ya see and have very little staying power for anything really. I must try harder.