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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th, 2016 7:24pm (Feb 27th 2016)
     
    Yes, hope you're on the mend now, NN. Stay warm and cosy!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th, 2016 9:54pm (Feb 27th 2016)
     
    I hope you are feeling better, NN.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th, 2016 11:15pm (Feb 27th 2016)
     
    Yes, I hope you're feeling better now too.
    I agree with your decision for Daisy - the scan will just be diagnostic, it won't help with treatment so is it worth all that stress. I won't let them do bloods on Emmett-she's 21 in April and the anaesthetic is more likely to kill her than the metacam for pain relief. It's very sad to know they're heading towards the end of life, but we all have to go sometime so just have to hope it's quick, pain free, and remember they know we love them. She could have many years ahead of her still - make the most of them.
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd, 2016 2:45pm (Mar 2nd 2016)
     
    Sorry I have been away for so long had to have a spell in Hospital but am home now and feeling a lot better, thank you for you kind wishes. The saddest thing is the day I went in Daisy had a heart attack and lost the use of her legs and Jay had to take her to the vets to be PTS. Bless her she was always such a little fighter and she swore spat and bit every one right up to the end. She had no feeling in her legs at all and could only move her head but they were still saying oh what about a scan what about this that and the other it was so obvious from her condition that she would never make it past that day Jay had to be quite firm about what he wanted. He was so upset that all they really wanted to do was squeeze a little more money from her. She is at peace now though and buried next to my Kimmi cat under the sweet smelling rose bush I will get some daisy seeds to sprinkle round there when the weather is correct.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd, 2016 7:29pm (Mar 2nd 2016)
     
    Ah, bless her...and poor Jay having to cope with that AND with you being ill...I do hope you're on the mend now, NN. Take it easy, stay warm. So sorry about Daisy but my word you gave her a lovely life. :heart:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd, 2016 10:35pm (Mar 2nd 2016)
     
    I'm glad my vet was always very honest about what was reasonable and when to give up, but he's retired now so I hope the new vets are as realistic. I'm sorry your vets weren't sympathetic to Daisy's condition and more supportive in letting her go. It's good that Jay was able to be strong for her when she needed it. I'm sorry too that you weren't able to be there, but hope you can remember her how she was and that you are getting back to health. She was a true fighter-sleep soundly Daisy. :heart:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 2nd, 2016 10:40pm (Mar 2nd 2016)
     
    Had the worst bout of norovirus I've ever experienced! Glad to be through it now and need to start eating again!
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd, 2016 11:24am (Mar 3rd 2016)
     
    Thank you for your kind thoughts and wishes xx. Oh Kate so hope you feel a lot better soon take it slow and dont be doing to much, xxx
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd, 2016 5:23pm (Mar 3rd 2016)
     
    Yes, we need to put BOTH of you in a nursing home for a week! Feel better soon, you two. :flowers:
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd, 2016 6:09pm (Mar 3rd 2016)
     
    I hope you both feel better very soon, Kate and NN...NN I'm sorry you lost your sweet little hen.:face-sad:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 3rd, 2016 9:30pm (Mar 3rd 2016) edited
     
    Ooo a week in a nursing home - no housework, being looked after ... Where do I sign up?!
    (Back to work tomorrow :sad:)
    Daisy was NN's cat Lynn not hen. x
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 4th, 2016 12:44am (Mar 4th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Oh NN I'm so sorry :( :bighug: :heart: And that's absolutely disgusting that they were trying to get more tests done...makes me so mad! When Penny was clearly very ill and we took her to have her PTS, the vet did quite a few examinations on her and tried to get us to give medicine a try...like, just no. She was 10 years old, really there's no need, and you all know how scared of people she was so it all really stressed her out.

    NN, feel better soon :bighug:

    Kate sorry you've been poorly as well!! Great excuse to eat all your fave foods now though :hungry:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 4th, 2016 11:40pm (Mar 4th 2016)
     
    Everything still tastes weird though - taste buds haven't quite recovered (but when they do I'll take advantage!)
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 7th, 2016 11:18am (Mar 7th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    wasn't sure where to put this and I hate the guy, so here will do...

    Petition to remove Cesar Milan from TV, feel free to sign :bigsmile: This one is in specific regards to when he 'worked' with a dog that had killed the owner's pet pig; he put the dog on a longline (which he claimed was the same as a muzzle - how is a long lead the same as a muzzle?!) in a pen of pigs, then after five minutes let the dog off lead.

    Several time the dog got away and attacked the pigs (the pigs were bleeding and in obvious pain and panic), and Cesar couldn't get the dog under control. When he did get the dog he intimidated the dog so much that the dog snarled at him.

    Absolutely disgusting.

    I doubt this petition will do much, although it has thousands of signitures, but wouldn't it be great if he was taken off TV?!

    https://www.change.org/p/national-geographic-television-ban-caesar-milan-from-all-television-for-animal-abuse?recruiter=502854629&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=des-lg-share_petition-reason_msg&fb_ref=Default
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 7th, 2016 11:18am (Mar 7th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Oh I should add there's nothing gory when you click the link - there's a video you *can* watch, with the clip from the show involving the pigs, but you don't have to.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 8th, 2016 7:34pm (Mar 8th 2016)
     
    Signed. x
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 9th, 2016 7:04pm (Mar 9th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thanks Kate! :bigsmile: It seems to be going really well - it was aiming for 2500 signatures when I signed it, now it has over 8000!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 9th, 2016 10:45pm (Mar 9th 2016)
     
    The piece of film has been removed apparently (I didn't watch it-get too upset) but the guy who posted the petition is still going to continue.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 10th, 2016 8:59am (Mar 10th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I watched the video, then wished I hadn't...I'm not surprised they made the guy remove it.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 14th, 2016 4:55pm (Mar 14th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    rant: Photobucket, uuuuugh! It's been really messing up this past week and getting worse and worse - yesterday it took SIX ATTEMPTS to upload ten photos >__<

    I might stop sharing as many pics, it's just such a farce...
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 14th, 2016 5:28pm (Mar 14th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    second rant: I try and keep away from Crufts, I really do, but I slipped and saw some of the 'best of breed' winners today...dear god what are we doing to these poor dogs *shakes head* I only saw the Pekingese and the GSDs, then I made myself stop looking, but by heck have we ruined those dogs...the GSD, what are they thinking?! And the Peke couldn't breathe!!

    I went onto Crufts' facebook page and was at least relieved to see 100+ comments calling them out on the GSDs, ranging from it being disgusting that the dog won, to it being abusive and reporting the breeder (agree with every point).

    As ever Pedigree Dogs Exposed has some wonderful coverage and thoughts, and from that blog I'd like to share with you these photos of two different GSD which really make me cringe:



    This pup is 7 months old...honestly I could cry



    Crufts from 2013



    And straight backed GSDs from google images for comparison





    Even the 'healthier' breeds are having more and more issues, and a recent survey done by the KC I think it was shows that almost every breed of dog involved has had a drop in average lifespans. The very unhealthy breed (Bulldog was one I think) lived as little as six years on average
    :face-crying:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 14th, 2016 7:32pm (Mar 14th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    :cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing: :cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing: :cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing:


    Spent ages cleaning various cages and levels thoroughly for the chin upgrade; planning, gathering toys etc, ready to melt a hole in the base and the ****** soldering iron is broken....OMG AAAAAGH...all that cleaning and excitement for nothing :tearhair:

    *cries*

    I'm considering just hacking through the base with a knife or something but I'll probably crack the plastic or end up accidentally stabbing myself *sigh*
    :(
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMar 15th, 2016 5:40pm (Mar 15th 2016)
     
    Calm down Dear !!! it happens for a reason that isnt always clear at the time. Another idea will pop up just wait and see xxxx
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeMar 15th, 2016 10:49pm (Mar 15th 2016)
     
    My Mum bred Pekinese back in the 1940's.
    I just didn't recognise that Crufts Pekinese. It was just a ball of fluff. No obvious shape and a nondescript action.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMar 15th, 2016 11:47pm (Mar 15th 2016)
     
    I didn't like the peek either. I saw an interview with the boss of the Kennel Club and she was disgusted that that particular GSD won - she didn't meet the correct breed specs which have moved away from the sloping back. She said they would be having very strong words with the judge that chose it. The other finalists were lovely though, and the chief of the pug association said they're working with Cambridge uni to improve the nose/breathing of the pugs so they're starting to listen!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeMar 19th, 2016 6:17pm (Mar 19th 2016)
     
    I always feel horrible when I see what they have done to the GSD..that slopping back just makes them looked deformed..who the hell came up with the idea that it was a good look and breed for the slopped back...I feel so bad for the GSDs. :face-crying:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 19th, 2016 11:29pm (Apr 19th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    rant: saw a crap vet with our piggle girls today. First he kept calling them "he", and I know that's not a big deal but I HATE it - how am I supposed to trust a vet when they can't even remember / see the gender of my pets?! Secondly we went in, clearly listed the symptoms, answered his questions and said we're pretty sure it's a URI.

    He asked me to put Chelsea on the table and I said "okay, but she's fast and she will bolt..." The vet put her on the table, Slice bolted, and the vet had to grab at her so she didn't fall off!!

    He then spends about ten minutes on each pig terrifying them - pinning them in various positions, checking for mites, holding open and squeezing their mouths, just doing things there was no need to do...guess what they have URIs, who would have thought it!!

    He prescribes Baytril (haha, of course) and starts saying he will show us how to use it. At this point Lyle says "oh we've administered Baytril before so we know how to do it. We'll just give them their first dose at home, thanks"...but the vet didn't understand what we said, and proceeded to force Loaf's mouth open, and was an absolute **** with her - he even got quite pissy with her. He then tried to come near me to do Chelsea and I flat-out said "I don't want you to give her any, I'll do it at home, she's already scared." He wasn't happy but let us go.

    He then also gave us 100ml of Baytril to buy, when we only needed 2ml for 8 days for both pigs - it was going to cost us £100+!!! Thankfully the vet techs sorted it out, but it took them about 15 minutes to sort this.

    £36 for some crap treatment off a vet though, and another vet at the surgery we'll want to avoid...the vet techs were great this time though, chatty and welcoming. They loved the pigs, although we discovered the surgery recently got two 'staff' cats that wander the place which makes me VERY concerned about taking the dogs....
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 20th, 2016 9:04pm (Apr 20th 2016)
     
    Try another practice. I used to have one for the cats and another for the rats a 45 min drive away. Doesn't sound like that vet knows what he's doing! Well done for standing your ground.

    I always have the gender problem when I take Emmett to the vet-she's a tortie and white cat. Tortoiseshell cats are always female (it's a genetic thing) which you'd expect a vet practice to know. She's been going there for about 8 years, they find her on computer (which surely marks the sex) and still say "he".
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2016 3:50pm (Apr 21st 2016)
     
    I'd love it if those vets went to the doctors with their daughter and the doc said 'What seems to be wrong with him?' They would assume that the doctor didn't know his brass from his oboe...yet when it comes to THEIR patients...!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2016 10:55pm (Apr 21st 2016)
     
    ...and if the doctor treated the child in the same way - pinning it down, forcing it's mouth open, checking for lice, forcing medicine into it's mouth - they would be charged with assault and struck off.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd, 2016 7:37pm (Apr 23rd 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Three days after the vet visit the piggles were terrified coming out, it was horrible :( Slice, who had a real bond with me and would sit with me for hours, wanting nothing to do with it and would scream and constantly try get away.

    We kept handling sessions very brief and opened their cage lots to add treats, and yesterday we had our first cuddle sesh where they were both totally comfortable - *phew*

    Also even though Loaf is the greedy pig we couldn't get her to eat the Baytril at all because she associated it with such a negative thing - Chelsea on the other hand would eat it on carrots, lettuce or nuggets!

    Touch wood we have Loaf eating it in baby food, but if this fails we'll have to syringe it...
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 25th, 2016 12:07pm (Apr 25th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Rants: we adopted an African Pygmy Hedgehog yesterday. The previous owners had adopted it themselves; they didn't have time for him, he was nervous, he was healthy, they didn't want money blah blah blah. They even drove him over. They didn't stay long because they were getting teary; after they left I opened the viv where Flair (our name) was sleeping and immediately thought 'crap...' because he sounded like a rodent with a really bad URI.

    I watched YouTube videos to try and get acquainted with hog's noises, as I knew they were snuffly, but when Flair came out his house he really did sound bad...laboured breathing, squeaking, wheezing and almost constant sneezing when he was awake.

    I'm furious that he was left in this condition and also that they lied to us - this after we were lied to about Aubree too - I just don't understand people. How can you not treat an ill pet but leave it suffering, and how can you lie to someone willing to adopt it?!

    We phoned our vets yesterday and asked if they had any vets with exotic experience, then booked in to see them today. On second thoughts I asked Lyle to phone and ask which vet it was, and what do you know it was the head vet who treated Rey incredibly rough...yeah, we're not seeing him again.

    So Lyle cancelled the appt (it was funny when they asked why we were going somewhere else and he told them straight!) and we phoned several other surgeries before finding a vet experienced with exotics. It's at a surgery quite a travel to, but we've always heard positive things about them, and the vet is female. Shame about the travel but we do have a hot water bottle to keep Flair warm.

    (oh it seems you can only heat in the microwave, which we don't have...Lyle *thinks* he can do it in the oven >__< )

    So that sucks. After the vet visit, when we know what's wrong / how ill he is, we will be getting in touch with his previous owners.

    We now have two separate quarantine rooms...hoping the pigs pull through and Flair too. It's horrible seeing him so sick, and Lyle especially was so excited about getting a pet hog
    :(
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 25th, 2016 12:18pm (Apr 25th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Video of him - we had plans to add toys and change his substrate but will leave it until he's feeling better



    Current layout...we wanted him in a 120 rabbit cage, but again that can wait

     photo hedgehog_zps81myjf9f.jpg
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 25th, 2016 5:26pm (Apr 25th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    *update* - back from vets, doesn't sound like Flair will make it :'(

    The surgery we traveled to was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, not only were the staff fantastic but they had separate waiting rooms for dogs, cats and rabbits, AND on the cat side they had treats, a shelf for carriers out the way, and blankets to put over them!! They've done a special course so that staff know how to handle and interact with cats (not sure why not dogs) AND they have a quiet room where reactive / extremely nervous pets can wait!

    The vet was amazing and so different to the crap vet we saw with the guinea pigs. She interacted with Flair as little as possible; she listened to his lungs, carried him to be weighed and gave him an injection - the rest of it was watching him and asking us questions.

    Flair has had an anti biotic jab and we have Baytril to give him, but the vet said he is "the sickest hedgehog" she has ever seen (and they see quite a few wild & African Pygmy hedgehogs there). She said we need to prepare ourselves as there's a high chance he won't make it
    :(

    24 hours after his jab we have to offer Baytril twice a day, and we can also bring him to the bathroom with the shower going once a day too, to see if the steam helps. To be honest if he shows no improvement in 2 - 3 days I think we will opt to have him PTS as he is suffering so much...

    We're ridiculously upset...it sounds stupid that we have bonded so much in 24 hours, but I think part of it is that it's horrible to see him suffering and not know how long it's been going on for, and the other part is he's absolutely bloody adorable and seems to have the sweetest personality
    :(

    Please cross your fingers for a miracle...

    I swapped the substrate in his viv while he was in the travel box because he loooooved being able to bury in the cardboard, and I added a few hides / blanket piles close to the heat lamp to try keep him warm. I also removed his wheel because it seemed silly to have it in when he could hardly breathe...

    I wish the surgery was our closest one, I'd feel much happier taking all our pets there, and if we do have to take Flair again I worry about the stress being really detrimental to him. We've been back almost two hours now and he hasn't moved at all, his breathing is terrible
    :face-crying:
      poorlybaby1.jpg
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeApr 25th, 2016 7:44pm (Apr 25th 2016)
     
    awwwe poor little mite thats just so sad xxx Sending hugs and love xx
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 25th, 2016 9:01pm (Apr 25th 2016)
     
    Oh Red that's heartbreaking. What cruel owners he had. How didi they find you / you find them? I'm glad you've found a good vet but what a shame they're so far away. That's what happened to me too but I'm lucky enough to have a car.

    I really hope you can have a miracle and he will pull through. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeApr 25th, 2016 11:23pm (Apr 25th 2016)
     
    That was awful of the people to lie to you that way, Red. Poor little thing. I've got my fingers crossed that he will get better.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 26th, 2016 9:37am (Apr 26th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thanks NN :bighug:

    Kate we got in touch with his owners (I sent them a cold message, no aggression, more of a 'just thought you should know it was immediately obvious he is very sick, we took him to the vet and she had never seen such an ill hedgehog' etc) and they left an answerphone message saying they were 'shocked' and 'had no idea' that he had been ill...we're not going to ring them back, they're welcome to message us but neither of us particularly want to talk on the phone to them, and it's not like we want anything from them anyway.

    I just don't believe they didn't know, because he is SO OBVIOUSLY ILL! I mean he squeaks, wheezes, sneezes, it's so obvious...and they claimed he was running around perfectly fine, yet the day we got him he could barely move?! They had him up on a rehoming site, same one we found Aubree and Kasper on actually! Yeah we could get the train in to the better vets (which isn't too expensive but wouldn't be possible with dogs, and involves 40 mins walking) but taxi each way is £15 - £20 so it's just not feasible. Thank you, I hope so too...

    Lynn I do think they had to have known he was sick...if they seriously couldn't see how ill he was then I don't think they should be allowed to keep pets, because it breaks my heart to imagine how long he has been suffering like this for. Thank you.

    Update on Flair - doesn't seem to be eating, and hasn't moved at all since he tucked himself away after the vets. I'm honestly not sure if he has another day left in him. Today we will offer Baytril in baby food, and if he eats that we might mush up & blend some kibble with baby food and see if he will eat food that way.

    If he won't eat we will have to syringe feed him, and I'm honestly not sure if that's fair on him...I'm struggling so much with leaving him to see if he picks up, or put him out of his agony...
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 26th, 2016 5:50pm (Apr 26th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Flair update...I don't want to sound too hopeful, but we gave him a steam bath today (not sure what else to call it, we just brought him in his travel RUB into the bathroom and had the shower running hot for 20 minutes) and he seems significantly better.

    His breathing is still atrocious, but this is the first time we have seen him alert and walking about!!!

    He ate some meal worms (including some that had Baytril on) and he even took one from my hand!!! He didn't think much of the baby food but I'm not sure if it's because he can't really smell at the moment - apparently it can be really hard to get hogs to eat anything with URIs because they can't smell the food.

    Pics

     photo flair1_zpsrnkndbwp.jpg

    Hoovering up his med-worms!

     photo flair2_zps54zidziu.jpg
    I'm just uploading a video too, so you can compare it to the first one :)
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 26th, 2016 5:57pm (Apr 26th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Okay, here he is from about half an hour ago...the 'before' video can be found a few posts up!

    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeApr 26th, 2016 6:35pm (Apr 26th 2016)
     
    such a cutie pie just hope he manages to rally round and recover with flying colours. He has found you and thats a massively good start to a happy life xxxx
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeApr 26th, 2016 8:55pm (Apr 26th 2016)
     
    I knew you would find a way to help him, Red...you are awesome!! He looks so lively now.:clap::woohoo:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 26th, 2016 9:53pm (Apr 26th 2016)
     
    It's great that he's started eating, that's part of the battle won when you can at least get the meds in him. It was always advised to give the rats a "sauna" if they had respiratory problems but I never did that as my vet said it could potentially cause problems but when they're very sick it's well worth trying. Good to know it seems to have helped him. Fingers crossed he keeps improving. You're a real life patron saint of animals - will have to call you Francis from now on!!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 27th, 2016 12:49pm (Apr 27th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thank you so much everyone :heart: :heart: :heart: Having a bit of a rollercoaster ride with Flair, going from being filled with hope to crying and thinking there's not a chance he'll make it...

    Breathing sounded absolutely atrocious this morning, however he was still fairly alert and moving about...probably not as much as in the video but he hasn't had his sauna yet either (love that Kate, far easier way to describe it!!).

    He ate his first dose of Baytril but hadn't touched his second - he has until early afternoon before we syringe feed him (pleeeaaase eat Flair...). I think a huge problem is the fact he can't smell, so food just isn't as appetizing, and then feeling ill you often don't want to eat too.
    Also discovered his temps all over the viv are way, waaaay off :( His old owners couldn't get anything right!

    We're doing the best we can to rectify it; when they said he came with full set-up I (stupidly) assumed he would come with a stat or at least thermometers so we could gauge his temp, but no, they weren't using anything like that...I ordered some things off amazon prime, got them in, and we can at least read his temps now.

    I've had to cordon off 1/5 of the viv as they stupidly put the heat lamp on one side meaning the other side is far too cold...he needs slightly warmer temp than usual anyway, to help him recover. On top of that before we added a stat we found out it was 31*C directly under his lamp - it shouldn't be more than 27*C max. The cold end was 18*C (and our house is warm) and it should be no lower than about 23*C.
    So that won't have helped at all :cursing:

    And finally on top of that we could most importantly do with buying a new thermostat for him and then a new heat lamp for him (the red ones can potentially bother them) but our funds are unexpectedly low so he'll have to wait a few weeks I'm afraid...we need to reserve money for vet visits!!
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeApr 27th, 2016 4:45pm (Apr 27th 2016)
     
    Thanks for the update Red. Hopefully he will be feeling a lot more comfy now that you have the heat settings adjusted to his needs. Thinking of you all xxxx
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeApr 27th, 2016 5:18pm (Apr 27th 2016)
     
    The steam will help a lot, Red. So will the Baytril if you can get it down him! He's a lovely chap, I hope he feels better soon. You two are so GOOD!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 27th, 2016 6:30pm (Apr 27th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thanks NN. We've got his heat as well as we can but their placement of the lamp makes it tricky and sick hogs especially need really steady temps...they're doing okay now, it just seems we either have to have an area too hot or too cold :/

    CC the vet wasn't very specific in terms of how often to sauna Flair - "as often as you can", then said no fewer than once every few days would be ideal. We're doing daily but for a fairly long period of time. And thank you :blushing:

    Update # 2 (I'll try do another later after his sauna and final Baytril dose)

    His breathing is still really, really bad BUT he's still much more alert. He refused his Baytril concoctions today so we had to do the dreaded syringe feeding - I have to say he was absolutely AMAZING, he was such a bloody angel!!

    Now it was harder than it should have been because I couldn't hold him on his back (he literally couldn't breathe), but I had Lyle hold him on his lap and I managed to wheedle the syringe into his mouth. It was a mix of fruit baby food and Baytril...hogs aren't supposed to have too much fruit but at this point I'll get whatever I can down him and if he prefers fruit so be it! I got the full dose down him in two bursts, one about 2ml and a whole 5ml in the last sitting, and I actually saw him happily gumming and swallowing it :smile:

    So that at least was positive and it was also really nice to handle and get to know him a bit, he really is SUCH a sweetheart :heart:

    At about 9pm he'll have some time in his sauna, and after that he'll get his final dose syringe fed.

    Gotta be cruel to be kind, and hopefully at some point we'll notice some difference in his breathing...if his breathing doesn't improve but he stays active, I'll give him another few days, so long as he is eating and drinking. We'll see. It's all a bit of a rollercoaster ride, I go from beaming and thinking he's going to make it to sobbing because I'm gonna lose him...please keep your fingers crossed for him.
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeApr 27th, 2016 7:24pm (Apr 27th 2016)
     
    He seems to be a determined little soul so stay cheerful and positive for him. You are doing your very best and he must be feeling much more comfortable than he was when you first got him. He has much more of a chance with you and Lyle than he ever had with his old family xxx Chin up and keep doing what you do best .....Caring and loving xxx
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 27th, 2016 11:20pm (Apr 27th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thank you NN :bighug: Could do with some positive energy and nice thoughts haha.

    2nd update ~

    Brought Flair up for his sauna and he was very alert and active, it was so cute to see! His breathing wasn't great, but hey he was moving. He was in the sauna for about fifteen minutes, I did take some photos but the steam made it tricky!!

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    His little furrowed eyebrows are so cute but sad as they mean he's either worried by something or particularly struggling to breathe.

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    Afterwards ready for his syringe feeding

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    And here's a video of the entire process, in the beginning (right at the start of his sauna) you can see just how adorable he is :smile:



    So...I don't know how he's doing. No real improvement in his breathing; at times he sounds worse than ever whereas sometimes rarely he won't be squeaking or sneezing as much. He is still alert and active at times, he's not eating that good but we are getting food in him...he weighs 320g and should weigh around 450g!!

    As of right now I am willing to wait at least a few more days for any improvement, so we'll keep wishing.

    Thanks for all the lovely messages and crossed fingers :heart:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeApr 28th, 2016 5:14pm (Apr 28th 2016)
     
    If you're boiling veg or the kettle bring him near for a dose of steam. Every little helps!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeApr 28th, 2016 8:17pm (Apr 28th 2016)
     
    Sending positive thought his way. I hope he will start to feel better soon.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 29th, 2016 3:40am (Apr 29th 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    CC he always sounds worse after the sauna, what do you make of that? I need to do some research as I'm worrying maybe it's not helping him, or is it sort of a 'has to get worse to get better' thing?

    Thanks Lynn, he's doing a lot better...I had zero confidence when we first got him that he could get better, about 30% yesterday and today I'm 60/40 he'll survive!

    Flair update, late one today because I wasn't doing so well and took a med that made me sleep a stupid amount!!

    Gave Flair his first dose early afternoon, and his breathing was AMAZING!!! Still wheezy and snuffly but not as labored (laboured?!) ...sneezing was rare and there was virtually no squeaking. Compared to just a few days ago this is incredible.

    Brought him up a few hours ago for his sauna and he was alert, active and sounding good. Afterwards he was snuffly and wheezier, but still not too much sneezing.

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    Little stinker put up a bit of a fight taking his meds today but we got it down him :bigsmile:

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    He's not fully curled here, he can tighten up much more :bigsmile:

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    Grumpy butt after meds :P

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    All in all, great. I'd be really grateful if anyone could watch just the beginning and end of this video and tell me if they see the difference too - it's just footage from today and the first day, I just want to make sure it's not wishful thinking :smile:

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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 29th, 2016 8:52pm (Apr 29th 2016)
     
    He seems to be doing well Red - the sauna should loosen any gunk on his lungs so that he can expel it, so he will sound worse after it initially, but as long as he seems to be doing better it should be a good thing. Not sure if there's a point you should stop though?

    I'm worried about Meow Meow - he hasn't eaten at all today. I think I posted (somewhere!) that I took him the vets yesterday and he had long-lasting antibiotics and painkillers (24hr dose). He ate a little yesterday but not much (about a spoonful) and hasn't attacked one of the other cats for 3 days now! He has an infection but don't know where - his temp is up to 40 degrees (should be 38.5). All we can do is keep watch and hope he starts to show some improvement the weekend.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeApr 30th, 2016 4:24pm (Apr 30th 2016)
     
    Ooo, these animals keep us worrying, don't they? I do hope they both improve. Have you tried MeowMeow on a tin of pilchards/sardines in tomato sauce, Kate? Mine could never resist that. If they did I knew it was time to go to the vet.
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeMay 1st, 2016 9:16pm (May 1st 2016)
     
    I'm hoping that both Flair and MeowMeow are feeling better today.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd, 2016 7:13pm (May 2nd 2016)
     
    Meow Meow is a tiny bit better, but not enough to reassure me. Have tried him with everything CC. Today he's eaten about 4 or 5 mouthfuls of cat food (in 2 goes) and had some chicken from my dinner and managed the most I've seen him eat in 4 days. He had some water too. Still sleeping all the time though - think I need to take him back to the vets tomorrow for my own peace of mind.

    How's Flair Red? Hope she's still improving.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd, 2016 9:02pm (May 2nd 2016) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Oh damn Kate, these furkids :( Is Meow Meow one of your young cats? I get mixed up between them. I hope he's doing better or the vet has a clearer idea on what's up / how to help him.

    Flair's...I dunno. We saw all the progress, and he's still tons better than the beginning obviously, but the last few days we've seen absolutely no improvement whatsoever. He still wheezes, sneezes a lot, but very rarely does the squeaky breathing now. Funny thing, little sod's got wise to med time and clamps his teeth shut to keep out the syringe...giving him meds has gone from taking 4 minutes to about 10 haha, although he was *awesome* last night and took the whole thing in one go :heart:

    I don't know if the meds have just not been able to beat the URI or if his lungs are scarred, so even if we can reduce the sneezing, breathing will always be an issue...vet seemed to think if his lungs were badly scarred PTS would be the best thing, which would be horrific...I think we're gonna end up having to take him back to the vet in a few days for more meds / a check up, but I don't know whether to take him to the good vet surgery (where I trust them, they treat exotic pets, and he's already been seen once) or book in with our good local vet (who doesn't have specialist exotic experience, but all we'd be wanting is Baytril)...going to the good vet means a lot more stress for Flair (90 mins travel time total) and would also cost us around £30 in travel...

    And on top of that the crap vet we saw with the piggles didn't give us enough Baytril, so although they're really (really really) a lot better, they're at the end of their treatment and are still sneezing very occasionally and I know if we don't get their breathing listened to and probably more Baytril the URI will just come back...oh also they have mites after the vet visit, which is usually a stress response - they 100% didn't have them before the vet visit (in fact the stupid vet even checked them for it)and Slice especially had already been ill a while so I doubt it's that. We have them on treatment for mites but are gonna have to do a vet visit for the URI I think, will definitely be waiting until the good vet's at the surgery...

    If we lose this little guy after all the fighting on everybody's part and how much we've grown to love him I don't know what we'll do...

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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd, 2016 8:46pm (May 3rd 2016)
     
    My rats once got lice or mites (can't recall now) after a vet visit - was when they were very poorly and end of life so must seemed to make it more miserable for them. If you phone the vet (nearby one) would they just write you up a prescription for more Baytril which you could then use for both the piggies and Flair? Maybe Flair needs a different antibiotic - I know there's extra expense but I would be loathe to risk taking her to a vet that doesn't know about exotics as they may compromise her recovery. She may never completely lose the breath noises (don't all hogs snuffle?!) but as long as it doesn't distress her I would think it would be OK to risk keeping her going. You just need to do what you feel is right - such a hard decision.

    Meow Meow is about 6 years old. I was chatting to one of the pharmacists at work today and she said if he were human she would wait until 10 days post antibiotic jab before going back. I am reluctant to take him before as they'll just want to do more tests (kerching!) He is very slightly better - still lethargic and sleepy but eating a little more which is good news. He peed and pooped today (first poop in 5 days that we know of).
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 4th, 2016 11:29pm (May 4th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    We tried to get a call back from the vet we like today (the only one we trust) so we could ask her if she could give us a little more Baytril with no appt, and the receptionist wouldn't even have her call us!! Going to call back tomorrow and ask what days our vet's working and see if we can wriggle our way in that way...
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 5th, 2016 7:32pm (May 5th 2016)
     
    Or you can write to the vet and mark it PRIVATE so the dragon won't be able to interfere. Pen and ink works where other measures fail!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 5th, 2016 11:35pm (May 5th 2016)
     
    I thought Meow Meow was improving last night - he did seem brighter - but today he is back to being curled up in a box. I bought him some extortionately expensive food today (95p for a small packet) and he got up and seemed really interested, but still only ate a tiny bit. I don't know what else to do to tempt him. If he doesn't show a marked improvement by Monday I'll take him back to the vet and have to get more tests.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 6th, 2016 6:59pm (May 6th 2016)
     
    :heart: Thinking of you, Kate. :heart: I wish they could tell us what the problem is...
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 6th, 2016 8:14pm (May 6th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Are you heating his food up Kate? I know that can help with dogs...

    We trekked to the vets today, they really are good, they've given us a higher dose of Baytril to give to Flair and didn't even ask to see him. Amazing of them considering our local surgery won't even let us talk to a vet!! So we have more meds at a higher dose, lets hope they help.

    Video from yesterday (day 10 of treatment I think)


    C'mon Flair, keep fighting!

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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 6th, 2016 8:17pm (May 6th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    rant: we don't have neighbours atm, but whoever has bought the house is doing it up. We have had the LOUDEST work going on next to us from 8.15am - 8.05pm, it's been horrible.

    Banging so loud it knocked things off shelves, drilling that makes all the pets freak, and it's been scorching hot in our little oven-house today but we can't have the windows open because a) it's even louder and b) they were burning something and we were worried the fumes could hurt the pets...so we've been absolutely melting, it's been hideous!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 7th, 2016 12:30am (May 7th 2016)
     
    I know they need to do the work, but they could have a bit of respect. Maybe they're blitzing it so it'll be awful for a short time rather than bad for a long time.

    Meow Meow seems a little better today. Definitely eating better but still sleeping a lot. Maybe he's finally turned a corner. I tried warming his food Red but it didn't inspire him. The thing that got him eating again was cheap Asda brand food!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 8th, 2016 6:05pm (May 8th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    They weren't there quite as long yesterday and haven't been there today, but I expect they'll be back nice and early tomorrow!! Hope this building work doesn't take too long...

    Ah that was a clever idea Kate, the dogs' favourite food is always the cheap stuff - I guess it's like kids and McDonalds!!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeMay 8th, 2016 6:37pm (May 8th 2016)
     
    How is Flair doing now, Red??
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 8th, 2016 9:27pm (May 8th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Eh not too good Lynn, thanks for asking. He's only on day 2 of his higher dose of Baytril, so we're still hoping, but he's been getting steadily worse every day...I don't know how much longer we can string it out. It's not even that he's suffering horribly anymore as he's still better than when he started, but he's just not getting better and I don't know if he will...I guess we'll give him to the end of this dose of Baytril so long as he doesn't get worse, I'd guess it will probably last around a week.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2016 8:04pm (May 9th 2016)
     
    That's so sad Red, I really thought Flair was going to start showing some improvement once you got him over the first week. There's still hope though - all you can do is keep hoping for the best.

    I took Meow Meow back to the vet today. He really doesn't have any symptoms to go on other than he's lethargic and just not himself. His temp was OK (for a hot day), examination doesn't show any lumps, bumps, cuts, sore points ... but he's unhappy and not 'right'. We've started with £114 worth of bloods. It'll be money well spent if we can get him better. If they show nothing I don't know where we go next - x-rays I suppose.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 9th, 2016 9:41pm (May 9th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Thanks Kate, it really sucks after he showed some of the most dramatic improvement we've ever seen in the first few days...and then nothing.

    Another vet consultation today. Flair has scabs and is losing quills, it seems he has an infection caused by his lowered immunity...nothing much to do but continue with the Baytril and wait. I think the end might be near...

    I think it's worse when they're not acting right but vets can't find any symptoms Kate...especially because often vets don't take it seriously when they're just going on your word.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 10th, 2016 10:28pm (May 10th 2016)
     
    Oh no, poor Flair. Let's keep hoping though and maybe the stronger antibiotics will give him the boost he needs.

    Meow Meow is so much better today! (Couldn't have done it yesterday before the big vet bill could he!) He's having fuss, eating, went outside for a wee, and is sniffing all over the room. His blood tests came back completely normal - no raised (or low) blood count, liver, kidneys etc all fine. Had a chat with the vet and we decided we'd try painkillers for a few days and if that doesn't help then maybe more bloods for FIV & FIP (though she says they don't have any symptoms in themselves and I'm loathe to have them) and/or imaging. Hopefully though he's finally on the mend. I'm lucky that my vets do listen to me - they are happy to have a sensible conversation about my cats health and I think I've been taking Emmett for such a long time they know I have their best interests at heart. Maybe that's the advantage of having young, female vets! (It also helps that I knew MM had cat chin acne when she'd never heard of it, had to read up, and then admited to me she'd learned something from me!)
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 12th, 2016 9:20pm (May 12th 2016)
     
    Cat chin acne?? Is that a big spot in the V of the jaw underneath? Bits used to get that and I never knew what it was... So glad MM is feeling better. They ALWAYS do that after the vet has done a painful operation to remove money from your wallet!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 13th, 2016 8:18pm (May 13th 2016)
     
    When you first see cat chin acne it looks like dirt or flea dirt in the fur. It can then develop further into small spots and then pustules (just like teenage acne). Meow Meow had antibiotics to get rid of his, and we had to wash it with hibiscrub (though that's easier said than done!) They often out grow it and it's usually boys that get it.

    MM is lots better today - he had a go at Tabby earlier! I think I'll keep him on the painkillers over the weekend and then reduce the dose over a couple of days and see how he goes. Will probably call and discuss with the vet on Monday if I can. Don't know what's caused it. I am wondering if he's hurt himself jumping / hunting or been brushed by a car or kicked by someone horrible. We'll never know but let's hope it's short term and he'll be fully recovered soon.
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2016 4:35pm (May 14th 2016)
     
    So glad you little cat is feeling a lot better now Kate. I seen a sweet little cat at Nottingham cats protection that would make a nice companion for Sootz. We hope to go visit tomorrow if she is still unclaimed...... Fingers crossed xxxx
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2016 6:21pm (May 14th 2016)
     
    Oooo, get her, NN, go on! You can never have enough cats...
    Does MM go out a lot, Kate? Or does he stay near home and sleep?
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2016 6:26pm (May 14th 2016)
     
    My rant: tuning at the school been set up for ages, sent a reminder text yesterday which was acknowledged, checked the time with them, got there today...and it was LOCKED. :cursing:Finally (after 2 phone calls and a lot of trudging) found (unrepentant) caretaker :_oh_really:then found that I had to move 12 boxes of Prosecco, one of gin, and a cask of ale and two crates of glasses :blink:(PTA Ball tonight) to get near the piano. I was furious and have put my prices up. :tearhair::rant_red2:
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2016 1:51pm (May 15th 2016)
     
    should have loaded it in your car and said oh I thought it was my tip as you knew I was coming. Ha ha Good idea about upping your fee' Hope you have recovered from your hard work now. Good news we go get Minnie home on Wednesday.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2016 2:35pm (May 15th 2016)
     
    Oh good...you'll be glad to see her home. And she'll be delighted to get home too. How is she?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 18th, 2016 6:51pm (May 18th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Congrats NN, how fantastic :)

    Sorry to let you know, but we had to have Flair pts on May 13th. He wasn't improving and he was suffering greatly...so we made the call. He was a wonderful little hog, but he was just too ill :heart:
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeMay 18th, 2016 7:06pm (May 18th 2016)
     
    Red, I'm so very sorry to hear about Flair..he was such a dear little thing.:heart:
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 18th, 2016 7:35pm (May 18th 2016) edited
     
    So sad to hear about little Flair, Bless him you did your very best and made his last days as comfy and happy as you possibly could xxx
    We were so happy to be going to bring our little Minnie home today and had got every thing ready for her but then the lady from Cats protection rang to say that she had developed a bit of a rash where she was shaved to check for her neuter scar. The vert has prescribed some special cream that she has to have applied for a week. So they said we can not let you have her until we are sure she is fit and well. But you are more than welcome to come visit her whenever you like. So we are going on Saturday. Hats off to Nottingham cats protection for being so caring for the cats in their charge and for caring about the people who adopt them we feel so impressed and Blessed. I am busy making catnip Daisy shrews for the cats we couldnt adopt got 12 finished and three half done at the moment. Will keeps you posted how we get on xxx
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 18th, 2016 7:48pm (May 18th 2016)
     
    I'm so sorry about Flair - he was fortunate indeed to spend his last days with you and Lyle, and that you were brave and made the right decision to end is suffering. Sleep soundly Flair. :heart:

    Minnie is lovely NN! What a pretty girl! The CP rehoming centre I volunteer at have the same policy (must be a Cats Protection policy!) When the cats leave us as far as we know they are perfectly healthy, or any ongoing conditions (renal disease, diabetes etc) are fully documented and the owners aware. I don't think it's always been the case but it is the way it should be. She reminds me of one of my childhood cats, Fluffy. She'll look tiny next to your Maine Coon!! I'd love to visit another CP centre to see what it's like compared to ours. Is it very big? The other cats will love the shrews - what a lovely thing to do for them.
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 18th, 2016 7:59pm (May 18th 2016)
     
    Its just a small place Lynn very small and very friendly and extremely caring. We got there just in time to see Minnie as when we were in her little pen with her another couple came and said oh I got the feeling Minnie has just met her new family. GN said yes she most certainly has. Sootz is very gentle so I am sure her size will not matter. He has been so used to little Daisy cat bossing him about all these years. We will be monitoring their every move once they are fully introduced thats for sure.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 6:28pm (May 19th 2016)
     
    Poor Flair; sleep well, little one. :heart:
    Minnie is so pretty, NN... I bet you can't wait!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 7:59pm (May 19th 2016)
     
    She'll be in charge I'm sure - the females usually are! Kitten would love another cat to curl up with but none of them will let her. I hope Sootz and Mittens will be firm friends soon.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2016 8:39pm (May 19th 2016)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    She's a beaut NN! I love her white face markings :) You must be so excited to bring her home! How do you go about introducing cats?

    Thanks everyone for the kind words about Flair. I think the saddest thing was that in the beginning (when we started off so sure he wouldn't make it) we saw such improvement over the first week...but we had him for a month in the end, and he backslid and didn't change on the stronger dose. I said the entire time if he passed I wanted to let his owners know, because I'm still fuming, but I just can't be bothered...it won't do any good telling them, it won't change them...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 21st, 2016 8:00pm (May 21st 2016)
     
    I had a terrible day at rehoming today. A lovely couple came looking for a mainly indoor cat, but the only ones we home as 'indoor' are FIV or disabled (deaf, blind, missing a limb, or really old). Their cat had just died and he was FIV so they were more than happy to take another. They have another cat, but it has lived with the FIV all it's life and the owners said they don't care if he's FIV or not, it makes no difference to them. So they met Bertie, my favourite. They loved him. Filled in the homing form etc and went off on their way to await a phone call from the manager to say if the home check was OK. When the receptionist looked at the form she realised the cat they have isn't FIV (I had mentioned this already to her and the manager). The manager then said that CP policy is that they will not home an FIV cat to a home where there is a non-FIV cat. I am so upset, both because I feel I misled the owners (had I known about the policy I would've told them to fib :mad:), and because I thought I'd finally found a home for poor Bertie, who's been stuck in that cage since January. I knew we discouraged an FIV from going where a non-FIV cat was, but this cat has lived with a cat (who was 19 when he died) his whole life, so why is it not allowed? I reallly am questioning whether I want to continue going there. I am so mad and admit I left the centre in tears and am still really tearful. Stupid I know!!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 21st, 2016 8:03pm (May 21st 2016)
     
    Sorry, should've said that FIV is Feline Immunovirus. It means the cat has low immunity so can potentially struggle to fight off infection, and is passed on by mixing of body fluids, e.g. bloody fight, mating, etc.
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2016 9:09am (May 22nd 2016)
     
    Oh Kate sweet girl you made a simple mistake so please dont beat yourself up about it as we are only human and it happens. I dont understand your managers thinking over this either and it is so sad. I met one of the helpers yesterday when we went to visit Minnie and it was so nice to see how she made such a difference to the cats lives even though she was just there mainly to clean the cats cages. Please dont give it all up as you are so caring and loving thats why this little incident hurts so very much. You make such a big difference to the poor cats lives and they really do need you. Take next weekend off then a huge breath and carry on as usual sending you love and hugs xxxxx
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2016 1:25pm (May 22nd 2016)
     
    Thanks NN, that's really kind of you. I spent most of yesterday deciding I'd had enough, but then the longer stay cats like Bertie, Bertie Willis (another FIV), Princess, Hannah, Opal ... none of them get much of a look in when visitors arrive as they all have some sort of health or appearance problem (Renal, long hair, over 8 years old, that sort of thing) so I try hard to just give them some time and attention. I need to remind myself why I go and then I'll be OK. I am considering writing to CP to tell them how ridiculous I think some of their rules are, but is it really worth the effort? Thanks again for your comments - the person you met sounds like me! xx
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2016 1:44pm (May 22nd 2016)
     
    Poor you, Kate; I hate boxtickers too, they have no idea about using their common sense. Poor Bertie as well; their pedantry has caused a cat to miss a chance of a home. Stay strong, Kate - the cats NEED people like you on their side. :heart:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd, 2016 9:05pm (May 23rd 2016)
     
    Thanks CC - I'm annoyed as well as upset now and will write a complaint letter if Bertie isn't homed. It won't make any difference, but at least I'll have had my say.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJun 28th, 2016 7:19pm (Jun 28th 2016)
     
    Burnt 4 fingertips - had a brain-fade moment and picked up a dish that'd just come out of the oven but with no glove on. Ouch! Got them straight under the cold water so hope they don't blister, but they don't half hurt!!

    Is everyone OK? Very quiet on here lately - nothing from Red for many days and she's the one that keeps us chatting!! Hope you're all doing OK. xx
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeJun 28th, 2016 9:59pm (Jun 28th 2016)
     
    Ouch Kate, I hate how the skin there seems to go all thick and hard to feel things.
    Hope they get better soon.

    Really quiet on here at the mo'But we do have our little gaps from time to time. Just hope everyone is alright and just too busy with life to be posting.
    :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJun 29th, 2016 11:41am (Jun 29th 2016)
     
    Owie...hope the fingers are better soon, Kate. Cooking is dangerous - it's MAN'S work.
    Yes, it is quiet...I'd love to know how all Red's fur (and scale) babies are doing. Hope everyone is well. :heart:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJun 29th, 2016 10:10pm (Jun 29th 2016)
     
    Fingers are OK today - glad I got them under the cold water so quickly! I do worry about everyone when it goes quiet, but you're right we do have periods of limited inactivity from time to time.

    Are all the hens OK now? How're the fledgling hawks doing?
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeJun 30th, 2016 11:31am (Jun 30th 2016)
     
    Glad your fingers are Ok Kate. Sorry I am not about at the moment got a huge house full of family over here for a few weeks so much to do, places to go and such. Did get some pictures of the hawks day before last one fledged but havent had a real moment to myself to sort things out. Just waiting for every one to get ready and are off out again. Love to you all xxxxxxxx
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJun 30th, 2016 7:34pm (Jun 30th 2016)
     
    Have a lovely time with the relatives! 'See' you when you're back to normal! xx
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeJul 19th, 2016 3:39pm (Jul 19th 2016)
     
    Thanks Kate dont think I will ever be back to Normal ha ha
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJul 21st, 2016 11:17pm (Jul 21st 2016)
     
    Our phone has rung 4 times in succession (we never answer the land line) and when I did a 1471 it's a mobile number we don't know. Who calls that late though - half 10 at night? And now I'm really anxious because I"m wondering if I should've answered it. I googled it and there's nothing. so annoying.