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    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 20th, 2009 10:23pm (May 20th 2009)
     
    Hello,
    I've joined this site hopping to get some advice,
    Also id like to see other peoples hens and have a good chat.

    But 1st id like to see if any 1 can help me with a few things that i have going on with my girls,

    I'LL start with the the 1st one
    Please some1 help, as my hubby says i cant take them to a vet, which i want.
    He don't love my girls the same as i do.
    I've 4 of the large battery hens,
    The brown ones! don't know the bread name!
    One of my brown hens has started pulling a few feathers out from round her bottom, also looks a bit red, what should i do? Its only one of my hens. they all seem really happy, I stroke them every day, fresh bedding every weekend, fresh water every day?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 20th, 2009 10:52pm (May 20th 2009) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Hi Sara!

    Is the hen pulling out her own feathers, or are the other chickens pulling them out? Also, is there any blood?

    If the hen is pulling out her own feathers it could be because she has a calcium deficiency (and so she is eating the feathers for more calcium) try adding calcium-rich food to your girls' diets; such as soya yoghurt, cat food etc etc.

    If she is picking them out but not eating them, check her over for mites. Check the base of her tail feathers for little white clusters (lice / mite eggs) and check her feather or skin to see if you can see any mites running for cover. If you see any mites don't panic, you can buy lots of treatment to remove lice from them.

    She could also be picking feathers due to boredom (?) so try chucking a football or a whole cabbage / lettuce head into the coop with them. You can hang them up for them to jump and peck at too, if you want - it's fun to watch :)

    Hope some of this is a little helpful, good luck with your girl!
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 21st, 2009 5:42pm (May 21st 2009)
     
    Thanks.
    I haven't seen her or her friends pulling them out, Only seen her red bold bottom. There no blood!

    I give them grit and they are always eating cat/dog food. they also have my scraps from breakfast/dinner/tea.

    I will check for mites. They did have some last year, but they where yellow mites. really small. I've only heard of red might. What where the yellow ones. If she has got yellow mites, what do i get for them, as the stuff i got last year didn't really work... But they did go in the end!

    The thing is i haven't really seen feathers laying around, do they eat them?


    Defo not boredom, They are aloud to run around a large garden all day,

    we have a couple of dog/rabbit/cat which they play with. They have chicken toys and loads of snacks. then when kids get home from school, they have them to play with..

    You have helped a lot thanks..

    Any ideas on the yellow mites?
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 21st, 2009 7:09pm (May 21st 2009)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Sorry I've no idea about the yellow mites and couldn't find anything on google other than red mites start opaque until they have eaten (and then they are red because of the blood)...

    If you have a red mite problem (in fact a mite problem full stop), then you should look at Ivermectin or Permethrin, or Diatomaceous Earth which is a natural powder you sprinkle around the coop and nest boxes and kills the mites by piercing their body as they travel to feed.

    If in doubt, take a sample of any mites you find to the vets and they should be able to suggest something that will do the job...
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 21st, 2009 7:59pm (May 21st 2009)
     
    No red mites..
    But that's a really good idea about taking a sample to the vets,

    would they charge me for advice?
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 21st, 2009 8:55pm (May 21st 2009)
     
    :rolling: They charge you for breathing the air in their waiting rooms! :rolling:
    No, I shouldn't be cynical; it might be worth ringing, Sara. But if you turn up in person....ker-CHING!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 21st, 2009 10:57pm (May 21st 2009) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    There is no blood, so i wouldn't worry too much just yet!

    Diatomaceous Earth is a brilliant idea to use, even if they haven't got mites. It also gets rid of any other creepy crawlies that may be living in your girls' coop. You can scatter it liberally in their nest box and sleeping area, mix small amounts in their food, and scatter it where they dust bathe. We use it and since we started around four years ago we have never had another problem with mites

    Can you maybe get a photo of the chicken with the bald bottom? Is she showing any other signs of illness? My only thought is that she is at the bottom of the pecking order and one of the flock has developed a feather-picking habit, but to be sure you'd have to watch them all day to see what happens...
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2009 2:17pm (May 22nd 2009)
     
    Chief chicken, yes your so right, But your also very funny..

    Red Diatomaceous where do i get that from, vets or a pet shop? can you get it on ebay, i get everything from there.


    I've tried loading photos on here, but it says there to big.. Ill try again, But it does mean i have to go take a picture of my chickens bold bottom. lol.. see what i can do..

    http://s659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/saramarks132/?action=view&current=Picture110.jpg
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2009 2:20pm (May 22nd 2009)
     
    O i think ive done somthing..

    go to that link, there you'll see a few of my girls.
    One got bit a few weeks ago never did find out what hurt her. Ill take photo of bottom, later got to go back to work. talk later and thanks to all you friendly people..xx
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2009 3:06pm (May 22nd 2009)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    It's okay, you can post links to the pics they still work :)

    You can buy DE from...erm, where did we get ours from dad?? I think we got ours from a farm shop that also sold pet food, but I reckon you can maybe buy it from pet shops too...

    I'll ask my dad to post a definite answer ;)
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2009 3:56pm (May 22nd 2009)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Dad says you can also get it from garden centres =]
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2009 9:19pm (May 22nd 2009)
     
    Where are you. Im in northampton uk. Are you in the uk?

    http://s659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/saramarks132/
    More pictures.
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd, 2009 10:19pm (May 22nd 2009) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    We're in Bradford so not too far from you...

    You can get DE from ebay...

    I'm not sure what is wrong with your chicken's leg:



    But maybe Scarlet will know... It doesn't look like scaly leg mite to me but maybe it's how it looks before it gets bad?

    If it IS scaly leg mite, then you slather the leg in vaseline as this kills the mites as they can't breathe.

    I would probably suggest a visit to the vet - they'll be able to tell better in person...
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd, 2009 4:36am (May 23rd 2009) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    It's not easy to make out in the pic, but looks like scaly leg mite to me. Are the scales on her legs raised upwards slightly?? If the answer is yes, then it is almost certainly scaly leg mites - the mites live under the scales and push them upwards. Are some of her scales missing completely?

    Gently wash off as much dirt as you can from her legs using a toothbrush and warm soapy water - do it gently and do not remove any scales! Then try covering her legs with a layer of vaseline in a 'seven day cycle' until the situation is resolved. This cuts off the oxygen supply to the mites under the scales. If her leg has not improved within a week I would advise a visit to the vets...Hope this helps, good luck!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd, 2009 4:37am (May 23rd 2009)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Forgot to mention, you can treat all your chickens' legs with vaseline as there's no chance of it harming them and will add extra protection for them against getting leg mites in case the hen in the photo has them :)
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd, 2009 2:24pm (May 23rd 2009)
     
    Buy your Vaseline as "Petrolium Jelly" It is exactly the same thing but you pay a lot more when you buy it branded as "Vaseline".
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd, 2009 6:20pm (May 23rd 2009)
     
    Im going to bath my chicken now, and put vaseline in it staright away, I bet i get more wet then my chicken does.. Thanks so much to everyone for all your help your all so nice..
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd, 2009 7:48pm (May 23rd 2009)
     
    Diatomaceous Earth £25-£60 on ebay...
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 23rd, 2009 8:54pm (May 23rd 2009)
     
    SIXTY QUID??? Blimey...:shocked:
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 25th, 2009 6:34pm (May 25th 2009)
     
    Hmm that's what i thought, any ideas where it cheaper to get...
    Money tight at moment..
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 25th, 2009 6:53pm (May 25th 2009)
     
    I got some red mite powder for mine it is dear cost a tenner I will find out what it is called...... it is Barrier animal health care red mite powder..... says it is fast acting and lasts up to six weeks it was £10.35 for 500g. You dont need it use it all at once so might be a cheaper option, although I almost fell through the floor when I clocked the cost of it. It is easy to use and all the instructions are on the drum. I got it from the food stuff store.
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 25th, 2009 7:03pm (May 25th 2009)
     
    Is that the same as Diatomaceous?
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 25th, 2009 7:05pm (May 25th 2009)
     
    no not that i know of but it does the job
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 27th, 2009 6:46pm (May 27th 2009)
     
    Is it hay or starw that you shouldnt use in hen house?
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 27th, 2009 6:51pm (May 27th 2009)
     
    Hay it can have spores that gives the hens breathing probs... straw is just fine though
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 27th, 2009 8:04pm (May 27th 2009)
     
    Oo, I use hay...because I use it for the rabbits too. D'you think I ought to change?
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 27th, 2009 8:07pm (May 27th 2009)
     
    I use hay sometimes CC as long as it is sweet smelling hay you should be ok I do give mine fresh evey week and only use it in their nesting box and on top of snow to keep their tootsies warm. They do have a peck and nibble at it
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 27th, 2009 8:09pm (May 27th 2009)
     
    which one does mites like to live in
    • CommentAuthornanny north
    • CommentTimeMay 27th, 2009 8:12pm (May 27th 2009)
     
    mites will live in any crack or crevice they can find
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeMay 27th, 2009 8:23pm (May 27th 2009)
     
    thanks
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeJun 25th, 2009 1:06pm (Jun 25th 2009)
     
    I've just been to see my girls. One of my chicken had feathers missing from her bottom. Its Not getting any better, I cant see any mites. And all the other hens are her friends, so i don't think any1 is pulling them out, so why is she loosing more. some1 help please
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJun 25th, 2009 2:29pm (Jun 25th 2009) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Posted By: RedHi Sara!

    Is the hen pulling out her own feathers, or are the other chickens pulling them out? Also, is there any blood?

    If the hen is pulling out her own feathers it could be because she has a calcium deficiency (and so she is eating the feathers for more calcium) try adding calcium-rich food to your girls' diets; such as soya yoghurt, cat food etc etc.

    If she is picking them out but not eating them, check her over for mites. Check the base of her tail feathers for little white clusters (lice / mite eggs) and check her feather or skin to see if you can see any mites running for cover. If you see any mites don't panic, you can buy lots of treatment to remove lice from them.

    She could also be picking feathers due to boredom (?) so try chucking a football or a whole cabbage / lettuce head into the coop with them. You can hang them up for them to jump and peck at too, if you want - it's fun to watch<img src=" src="http:///images/smileys/icon_smile.gif" />

    Hope some of this is a little helpful, good luck with your girl!

    Other than that I can't think of anything else to suggest. If you've watched your girls for a long time and haven't seen any other hens, or the hen herself, pecking out the feathers then I don't know. You could treat for mites anyway and see if that helps (will help prevent the buggers ever invading, if nothing else!) but the only other thing I can think of is a visit to the vets :)
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeJun 25th, 2009 3:53pm (Jun 25th 2009)
     
    Thanks Red She is starting to look a mess. Ill get some mite stuff..
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJun 25th, 2009 9:44pm (Jun 25th 2009)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    And its definitely not any of the other chickens?! Hmmm that is a puzzle...
    • CommentAuthorsara
    • CommentTimeJun 26th, 2009 9:37am (Jun 26th 2009)
     
    Nope and hubby and i looked everywhere for mites, no mites any were