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    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeNov 21st, 2007 5:04am (Nov 21st 2007)
     
    This Thursday is Thanksgiving here in the states. Does the UK celebrate Thanksgiving the same day as here. ? Since my family does not eat the traditional turkey, we will give thanks at our feast of spaghetti , garlic bread, and pumpkin pie for desert. I am making a sugar-free pie for Stanley and me and a regular pie for the other members of the family. We hope everyone on here will have a great day as well.
    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeNov 21st, 2007 5:15am (Nov 21st 2007)
     
    Sweet potato pies and pecan pies are good too. Down the road a bit from where I live is a place called Vardaman , Mississippi and it is known as sweet potato capital of the world. It is home to Sweet Potato Sweets and I think I just gained a pound just now looking at their website. http://sweetpotatosweets.com/
    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeNov 21st, 2007 5:36am (Nov 21st 2007)
     
    Heavenly Hash is something traditional for my extended family to have on Thanksgiving and Christmas . It is made by melting marshmallows over a double boiler pan ( a pan over a pan of boiling water ) and adding maraschino cherry juice and a little pineapple juice. Whip some heavy cream and fold in the marshmallow mixture and slowly blend in some drained crushed pineapple and some sliced maraschino cherries. The result should be creamy and very light pink. Crumble some vanilla wafers and put them in a glass bowl. Put the Heavenly Hash over the crumbs. Garnish it with a light layer of crumbled vanilla wafers and maraschino cherry halves and some pecan halves. Refrigerate and let the flavors blend.
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeNov 21st, 2007 5:46am (Nov 21st 2007)
     
    I'm not fixing turkey this year either, Janice. I'm cooking a ham. I'm not too keen on eating poultry anymore :-)
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeNov 21st, 2007 7:36am (Nov 21st 2007)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Aww we don't have Thanksgiving, or the 4 day weekend after! :(

    I suppose our nearest celebration to that is Christmas but you guys have that too.

    It does sound like a really nice day - with all the family making a huge effort to share a meal together and tell each other what they are thankful for - really positive and heart warming!

    Hope you all have a great day tomorrow...
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeNov 21st, 2007 11:05am (Nov 21st 2007)
     
    UK don't have Thanksgiving. We do have Harvest Festival, celebrated mostly by the churches as a ceremony displaying produce. No lovely meal to follow though.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 21st, 2007 9:55pm (Nov 21st 2007)
     
    Is it true that Thanksgiving is more important to Americans than Christmas? Do you get presents for both?!! Have a lovely holiday break, don't forget to Hencam!
    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeNov 21st, 2007 10:16pm (Nov 21st 2007)
     
    Kate, I can not speak for all the other Americans but to me Thanksgiving and Christmas are two very unique holidays. I would venture to say that most Americans are partial to Christmas. No we do not get presents on both days. Thanksgiving is basicly about getting together for meal with family or close friends and saying a blessing and then eating . The men usually watch football and women talk and play games with the children . There are some parades on television that most enjoy . Macy's has a famous parade with huge helium filled balloons. Christmas is a huge thing for Americans ( sadly more Commercial Day now as less emphasis is put on Jesus and more on presents. ). It seems to get closer each year . I was born in 1951 and the first Christmas I can remember is 1953. Back then people usually did not put a tree up until about a week before Christmas. Now around here some people have Christmas trees up now. Most Christmas shopping started about 2 weeks before Christmas now it traditionally starts the day after Thanksgiving.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd, 2007 12:56am (Nov 22nd 2007)
     
    It partly depends on your political bent :)

    For me, as a political liberal, Thanksgiving is kind of a difficult holiday because we think its roots are in thanking god for a country that we Europeans took away from someone else (Native Americans.) That's not how the majority of Americans view it though, it to be sure. In fact, my Native American brother-in-law and nephews eat the traditional big thanksgiving dinner and joke about the irony at the same time :) The one of the other roots is probably just a big feast after surviving at all in a new land, while stocking up for the winter ahead. That aspect of the celebration makes the most sense to me and is how I celebrate it.

    My guess is that, especially in a country as ethnically mixed as ours, there are many many different perspectives on every holiday we have. Christmas is an other example, there are lots of people who aren't chrisitian who live here. And again, a number of people think the original celebration was winter solstice made into a celebration of Christ's birthday to apease pagan converts... Dunno. I just love all the beautiful lights and any kind of party during the cold months :D Everyone I know hates the commercialization that Janice talked about. The problem is that retailers make 45% or more of their earnings during this time between Thanksgiving and Christmas... This year I saw Christmas ads and decorations start to go up right after Halloween. At some point its going to be year round!

    Like Janice said, can't speak for anyone else here but Christmas is the more important among people I know. My family may or may not gather for Thanksgiving but we almost always do for Christmas. And we are among those who are non-christian. :)
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      CommentAuthorGloria
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd, 2007 1:46am (Nov 22nd 2007)
     
    Hi, all!

    Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday because there is really no shopping involved or a big push of advertising! LOL! In fact, the other day, I heard a couple of salespeople at Walmart commenting that Thanksgiving seems to have disappeared, except for the food shopping. It's sandwiched between Halloween, which has become an out of control event and the Christmas, which seems to start earlier and earlier. We've had people in the area putting up lights 3 weeks ago!!

    We're having an elderly neighbor over tomorrow...widowed a year ago, with a daughter up in Denver who is battling cancer. My neighbor has multiple health problems herself, so she can't go up to Denver (although she got there in October when the weather was better.) I made the cranberry relish yesteray, and today I made mini-loaves of pumpkin-cranberry cake! I made them last year and they were DEEEE-licious!!!!

    This is the first year I've bought a free-range turkey. I will make my apple-raisin bread stuffing in the crock pot and string beans with mushrooms in the small crock pot. Yams in the oven. So, thanks to the crock pots, the kitchen will be sans lots of pots and the stove and all the heat from them. And much more order, which makes it much more enjoyable to be cook!

    We ignore Christmas except for a nice special meal...usually turkey again or homemade lasagna (we're Italian and lover our pasta!) I absolutely detest the mad rush and the commericialization, esp. since I am not a follower of any organized faith. I do very little shopping for gifts...I'm doing a homemade collage for my best friend this year and we've sent a couple of subscriptions to my brother and family. As for sending cards....that ended years ago.

    The best part of the whole season are the lights...esp. since I don't have to take them up and take them down. I just enjoy what everyone else feels compelled to do.
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      CommentAuthorGloria
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd, 2007 1:48am (Nov 22nd 2007)
     
    Excuse all the missed words and any misspellings....
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd, 2007 11:56am (Nov 22nd 2007)
     
    Its lovely to hear all of your viewpoints and thanksgiving sounds like a nice family getogether day. I think Christmas has lost its meaning over here completely. If you ask kids what its all about they say 'presents'. My husband is a real "bah humbug" person and complains about the whole thing but its me that does everything! We don't even buy any extra food in and he treats it as a 'Sunday' day. Every year I decide I'll be more festive but I never am. Many of my friends have bought most of their presents already - I've bought one!!

    I'm not religious (my school religious education exam convinced me that so much has been distorted over time.) I don't tend to buy cards either and prefer to give a donation to a charity - usually Cat Protection - than put money into department store tills.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd, 2007 6:05pm (Nov 22nd 2007)
     
    My family struggles each year with how to make celebrating together more meaningful and less commerical. Or maybe I struggle and they try to tolerate me :)

    This year for my birthday I asked everyone to just go pick out a postcard and stamps and write me something themselves - no matter what their age. I told them I only wanted postcards, no other gifts, but I wanted a card from everyone. This idea was partly because then even the youngest kid could afford to do it themselves and because lots of my family live spread out around the country. And also, because of what Kate said, the task of carrying out celebration, gift giving, etc... is often done by the women (excepting Neil of course) even though we have more boys than girls at this point in my family.

    The first card was from my sister (who of course also sent a gift.) It was nice but not really too moving (we talk together quite often) - a bit like getting one of those cards the dentist sends you on your birthday... But as I started getting postcards from the people in my family who don't communicate as much, it started to really hit me. By the last one - I was crying a little as I read it. And I've gotten more emails from those family members since. Very heart expanding.

    Now I just need to figure out what other kinds of things actually cause increased connection between people for all those other family celebrations to come...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd, 2007 8:25pm (Nov 22nd 2007)
     
    That sounds like a great idea Diane, and something you can treasure forever simply by putting them into an album to re-read at your leisure. Much better than toiletry gift sets that are gone in weeks (or given away to the charity shop - I hate them!) I got my son's girlfriend to start knitting earlier this year, and hinted that I'd love a scarf that she'd made rather than anything bought. Don't know if she took the hint but it was my attempt at giving her a 'get out' of the present buying nightmare.

    Ollie mentioned harvest festival which I loved when I was at junior school. We all had to take in some canned produce, which was then boxed up for the elderly in the community. After an assembly where we sang hymns and said prayers (I'm not religious but I loved the songs and the thankfulness), the older kids would go out and deliver them. I loved being able to give something to a pensioner who probably struggled to make ends meet each week, and just chatting for 5 minutes to people that could go for days without talking to another person.

    I hope you've all enjoyed your meals and get-togethers. Happy Thanksgiving!
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd, 2007 10:51pm (Nov 22nd 2007)
     
    I had forgotten about the taking food parcels to the elderly. Round here they go mostly to folks who attend the weekly get-together. I don't go as I can't stand Bingo, communal singing of 'old' songs and all that stuff. So I wont hold my breath waiting for my parcel.
    Aren't I an old sludge in the mud ?
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      CommentAuthorGloria
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd, 2007 4:37am (Nov 23rd 2007)
     
    We had a nice dinner today...and I am exhausted because I did the whole thing myself. The free range turkey was marvelous...legs without sinews!! Our neighbor enjoyed herself and the dogs got a share of the goodies....

    This week I sit down to write a large number of checks to many charities...most of them are for animal rescue groups....including the Louisiana SPCA which is still struggling after Katrina. Then there are the pigs, the Best Friends sanctuary, the horses, not to mention the dogs...
    As for people, I focus on Planned Parenthood.
    I set aside a couple of hundred of dollars and give $10-$15 to each one...I find it hard to ignore any of the requests.
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      CommentAuthorGloria
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd, 2007 4:39am (Nov 23rd 2007)
     
    Hi, hens! I see Milly's eye to the rear of the coop, and a big black hulk in fronter of her which just moved....it's actually two black hulks!! Milly seems to have her neck stretched out ....
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 24th, 2007 12:49am (Nov 24th 2007)
     
    Hey Gloria that's really 'communal' of you and a lovely thing to do. I tend to give to animal charities in preference to human ones - most of my colleagues at work are the opposite so me and my mate Angie have to try and balance it!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeNov 24th, 2007 6:29am (Nov 24th 2007)
     
    We had an ok dinner...the day was dampened by the death of our nephew in an accident at work. Late last night I got an email from our son in Afghanistan, he will get to come home next month on the 11th, so that brighten the day a great deal. He'll be back in the states for Christmas.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 24th, 2007 7:07am (Nov 24th 2007)
     
    Oh Lynn - what sad sad news :( My condolences to you and your family.

    I'm really glad your son is coming home. And in time for Christmas too.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 24th, 2007 5:08pm (Nov 24th 2007)
     
    My condolences too Lynn, I'm so sorry for your family's loss. How tragic that he goes out to work and never comes home. I'm sure you'll be very relieved to have your son back home - hopefully they'll all be home soon.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 12:16am (Nov 26th 2007)
     
    Since you don't have Thanksgiving in the UK - do you have a match for our "Black Friday?" (the day after Thanksgiving where retail outlets open very early with supposedly deep discounts and people wait in line from the early am on and then rush in as the doors open.) The insanity always makes the news.
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 8:43am (Nov 26th 2007)
     

    no longer a member

    Diane ??? I take it you are an American from over the pond then ?

    No we dont have Black Friday but we do have Guy Forks day and we have other non American hollidays and in UK the shops are always having sales... any excuse..
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 8:45am (Nov 26th 2007)
     

    no longer a member

    Lynn My thoughts are with you and your family too.... so another lady from over that big Pond as well eh

    Is everyone from the USA ? am i the only Brit ? This is so cool to see an international Chicken coop... Hmmm talking of coops where in the world is that coop ?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 11:30am (Nov 26th 2007)
     
    Myself, Joanne and Ollie are all in the UK, and the coop is british too of course! Lynn, Diane and Gloria are all from over the pond. Have I missed out any "regulars"?!
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 12:18pm (Nov 26th 2007)
     

    no longer a member

    wow a truely international bunch.. where in UK are everyone? and where in the states are the others I know where diane is her name tells the story
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 3:37pm (Nov 26th 2007)
     
    I'm in the Midlands, as is Joanne, and Ollie is 'oop north' in Yorkshire. Hope you don't mind me answering for you ladies!!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 3:39pm (Nov 26th 2007)
     
    What's the picture on your account Wazza? Are you a bike paramedic or motorcycle cop or something like that?!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 8:19pm (Nov 26th 2007)
     
    Janice is also a regular on here - and she's from a state in the US that you've visited wazza. I'll let her describe it, since I'm not certain I can even spell it :D Her grand daughters are also big fans.

    There are many many others who look at the cam (and perhaps the forum) but who don't chat. There's Luke & also Pinklefish (UK) and Dan & GW (USA) and dan (UK) & Fiona. Tons of others - I guess this is the list of the voices that come to me at this moment as I miss them.

    But I LOVE the forum over the chat because I've gotten to know Kate & Ollie & Lynn & Jo & Janice & Gloria & of course Neil & Red much more than I would have through the chat :D :D

    LOL while not the only Brit, what you are (excepting Neil) is the only boy wazza :D
    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeNov 27th, 2007 5:13am (Nov 27th 2007)
     
    Lynn, I am sorry to hear about the loss of your nephew. Please, think of the good times you had with him and cherish those memories.
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeNov 27th, 2007 10:27am (Nov 27th 2007)
     

    no longer a member

    kate ?????? you little detective you... you have been checking me out eh... LOL

    what do you think i do then ?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 27th, 2007 7:58pm (Nov 27th 2007)
     
    Hey, it was just a guess from your profile! Of the 2 I was going to say paramedic but they surely don't earn enough to buy that big house and flash car!!! :D Looking at your garden photos you should take that up as a job!
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 8:28am (Nov 28th 2007)
     

    no longer a member

    check out my post about where we live and all has been revealed