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    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd, 2007 11:21pm (Nov 23rd 2007)
     
    I went over to the Neighbours family reunion today . Other than getting to see many cousins and have a nice tea , one of the highlights was seeing Uncle Don's buff brahma bantum chickens. They are so cute and colorful and the little rooster is so proud of his flock . He was strutting around crowing all day long. I thought roosters only crowed at day break. We only had one rooster on our farm to my memory and he was the result of my turning a little boy chicken loose before my mother could fix him for dinner. She would put a band around the ankle of the chickens that were to be processed. I was attached to " Henry " and just was not going to let him meet his fate, so just before my mother could get to him, I " accidently " let him escape. He took off through the cotton field and towards the neighbor's chicken pen. We thought he had joined that flock. Mother was not angry with me and said that if I loved that chicken enough to risk a " green switch " then she could forgive me. Almost a year passed and " Henry " came back to me, little red band and all. Daddy built a pen for him and he lived four more years. Mother and Daddy did not want a rooster because they sold the eggs from our hens. We never had any baby chicks hatch on our farm . My parents would go to the feed store and buy baby chicks each spring. All our chickens were free range and had five acres devoted to themselves.
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd, 2007 11:54pm (Nov 23rd 2007)
     
    What a lovely story.
    I am not enthralled with bantam eggs, they are so tiny!
    Now I haven't tasted one. Should I before I sound so condeming?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 24th, 2007 12:41am (Nov 24th 2007)
     
    I agree - great story and good to hear your parents were so forgiving and supportive. My (ex) boss had some bantams and used to correct me every time I asked him how his chickens were!
    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeNov 24th, 2007 1:45am (Nov 24th 2007)
     
    Ollie and Kateb, I am happy that you enjoyed hearing about Henry. It takes 3 or 4 bantam eggs atleast to equal a regular size egg but they taste good. Aunt Jean used about a dozen this morning to cook breakfast for her three grand kids.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeNov 24th, 2007 11:30am (Nov 24th 2007) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Bantams are sweeeet! I especially love the roo's, too, because they're so small but very protective of their girls ;)

    I enjoyed your story Janice. Have you ever seen a bantam silkie hen? Me and my dad reeeally want a bantam silkie, they are gorgeous!! But, sadly, i think the other girls might crush it if we tried to introduce one to the flock... :-\
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 24th, 2007 5:04pm (Nov 24th 2007)
     
    That's a shame Red, I'd love to see a bantam added if only to compare their size!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeNov 25th, 2007 5:24am (Nov 25th 2007)
     
    Red, I use to raise little white Silkies, they were the sweetest chickens I ever had. One of these days, I plan on getting more of them.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 25th, 2007 5:56pm (Nov 25th 2007)
     
    Would they deliberately crush it or accidentally? Do hens tolerate inter-species mixing?!
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeNov 25th, 2007 8:20pm (Nov 25th 2007)
     
    I kept my silkies in with the bigger hens, one of the silkies was at the top of the pecking order, so I guess it just would depend on the personality of the hen, as to her getting along or not.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 8:16am (Nov 26th 2007)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Aw Lynn, that's so cute! Maybe one day we'll get a silkie hen ;)

    Chickenes don't care about mixing with other breeds at all. It's just that when you introduce a new hen to a flock, the other chickens all start attacking her to try and make sure she's the bottom of the pecking order. It's not pleasant, and i'm not sure whether a little banty would be able to cope :P

    I remember with Eva, when she was cuddling on my lap Milly would get insanely jealous and i'd have to either lock Milly up in the house part of the coop, or take Eva indoors...otherwise every time Eva tried for a cuddle, Milly would jump and attack!
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 8:41am (Nov 26th 2007)
     

    no longer a member

    hens are so bad then Red ? do they actually fight to the death or just to injure and to dominate?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 11:38am (Nov 26th 2007)
     
    Actually, when I made my ex-boss (the bantam keeper!) look at the chicks when they first emerged from their eggs he said there'd be trouble integrating them with the others. Unfortunately we never got to see how that turned out, but as they were a bigger breed would the same have been true?

    I can't believe Milly is so jealous! When my husband works days my cat will always lie between us for about 15 mins for some love and attention at bed time. When he's on nights she might pop up on the bed for 2 minutes on the Monday, but once she realises he's not there she doesn't bother. Not sure whether its jealousy of him being there (its me she asks for attention), or if its him she wants to lie by!

    How old are the girls?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 3:01pm (Nov 26th 2007) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I don't think hens fight to kill - none of ours have, anyway. They just peck at the new chickens, and will actually stand on their back to peck at their head, to show them who's boss and re-establish the pecking order. It was worse when we had Milly, she was just a tiny squirt, still a chick really, and i was so scared Tilly and Penny were going to seriously hurt her!

    Aw that's cute about your cat, Kate. Maybe she uses your husband as a hot water bottle, and then you for strokes / cuddles :D

    Um...Tilly and Penny are four years old, and Milly is three. Milly still does really well laying eggs though, to say she's so old!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 3:33pm (Nov 26th 2007)
     
    Makes sense of where the phrase pecking order comes from! Good point - he does radiate an immense amount of heat, but also jumps in his sleep and that scares her off sometimes.

    Old?! That sounds ominous - what's the life exptectancy of an average hen, bearing in mind your 3 are spoilt rotten!!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 6:43pm (Nov 26th 2007)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Bless!

    The average lifespan of a chicken can be anywhere between 5 - 10 years, depending on the chicken's breed and lifestyle. Some chickens have even been known to live for 15+ years!

    However, hens egg production is supposed to drop if not stop completely after the first year or two of egg-laying. That's why battery hens are killed at one / two years old. Milly's three years old, and she's still laying almost an egg a day when the weather's good :)
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 7:01pm (Nov 26th 2007)
     
    Blimey!! I never thought they'd live that long! I suppose that's because of the egg-laying. Most people wouldn't keep them as 'pets'. I hope the 3 girls appreciate their good fortune!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 26th, 2007 8:27pm (Nov 26th 2007) edited
     
    What interesting hen info.

    I loved your cat story as well, Kate :) Those kitties, they are all about pecking order too. Little hens in fur suits. I notice that the top of the bed (as close to the human's face as possible) has always been the primo spot to any of the zillions of cats we've had... My hunch would be she's inserting her dominance over your hubby (and getting warm as icing on the cake.)

    Kate, I think of you every time I feed Maya now :) She's starting to get closer to finishing a bowl of food without leaving in a panic, but she still watches the door (of the bathroom) because both Holly & Martin wait outside of it once they finish their own meals. So Maya licks up a mouthful and then looks at the door, then licks up a mouthful and then looks at the door, then goes to the door. So I call to her and show her the food bowl and we start the cycle all over again. Hasn't vomited once since we started this tho! And I think she's starting to gain back some weight.
    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeNov 27th, 2007 5:10am (Nov 27th 2007)
     
    Red, I have never owned silkie bantams but my neighbor had some once and they were adorable. I really missed them when she moved.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 27th, 2007 8:08pm (Nov 27th 2007)
     
    My Emmy was sick again this morning - on my son's bed this time (a favourite vomitting spot unfortunately!) Will have to start a diary of her eating habits!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 27th, 2007 8:17pm (Nov 27th 2007)
     
    What do you feed her?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 27th, 2007 9:39pm (Nov 27th 2007)
     
    Felix (wet cat food) pouches. She used to have Hills science diet (dried kibbles) but was just as sick with both. We switched to wet food because she had 3 big molars out last year and couldn't crunch it so just brought them up whole!
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      CommentAuthorGloria
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 2:19am (Nov 28th 2007)
     
    My neighbor was here for Thanksgiving and she mentioned she had had bantams. Well, I had to do more research and I found a site which claimed one or two could easily be housed in a dog carrier!! Then, from a previous round of research on chickens in general, I figured they were small enough to be put outside on the grass using a small, bottomless "cage" which could be moved around to a new spot often...

    You see, I cannot let go of my dream of having chickens so easily...bantys may be the way I can accomplish it!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 5:33am (Nov 28th 2007)
     
    Hey Gloria - as I started reading your post I began to wonder if you were thinking about this possibility for yourself! That is so wonderful - that you could possibly become a chicken mama in the flesh :)
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 5:41am (Nov 28th 2007)
     
    I think that is a wonderful idea Gloria, a lot of people have chickens like that. There are plans to build a "chicken tractor" (that's what they call the cage you are talking of building) on the internet. Go For It Girl!!! You'll love being a chicken mama. I know my chickens give me endless hours of pleasure.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 9:30am (Nov 28th 2007)
     
    Perhaps I should ask for chickens for christmas, but not sure my husband would go for it!! I asked him if he wanted a baby or a kitten (no, I don't want a baby but he REALLY doesn't!) and he said did I want a divorce or death. I'll take it that was a no!

    (He then said if I really want a cat I can have one, but I have a 4 cat superstition so said no, I'll wait for my Maine Coon!)
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 6:30pm (Nov 28th 2007)
     
    Gloria, we have a weeny garden (26 feet square) and my frizzle bantams, Sage and Onion, presented us last December the first (!!!!) with J-Lo (with a big bum) and Dodo (who looks like a dodo). Neil kindly talked me through the perils of tiny chicks in winter; I reckon the bantam's brain is even smaller than it should be proportionally to hatch chicks at such a preposterous time of year. Anyway, we had 4 bantams and 2 rabbits and 2 cats rattling round our small garden until last week (J-Lo and Dodo went to their new home) and the garden survived. And so did I, just!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 7:09pm (Nov 28th 2007)
     
    Hi chief chicken and welcome to the forum! Great names for your bantams! How are the cats with them - I'm told they'll attack small breeds, have you had any problems?
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 7:27pm (Nov 28th 2007)
     
    Good grief, no; once they'd been chased round the garden by a randy frizzle cocerel, neither cat showed any inclination to go near the chickens again. And I think they know who 'belongs' to the family - the rabbits are left alone too, unless they get too inquisitive, in which case they get smacked with a paw. The rabbits like chickenfeed, and get pecked if they try to muscle in at breakfast time. It's a bit like Fred Carno's circus in our back garden...add the occasional demented squirrel and it's total chaos!
    Thanks for your kind welcome; I've lurked on the fringes for ages, and Neil has had his brains thoroughly picked on more than one occasion, as I'd never had chickens before. Onion was going to have his neck wrung for fighting with his dad, and I couldn't let that happen so said I'd take him if I could have a hen to go with him. The Long-Suffering Eric (who woyuld quite like a neat garden and a tidy house, but married me instead) says it's a good job it wasn't an albatross...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 7:49pm (Nov 28th 2007)
     
    What a great mental picture!! Our garden is slightly longer but a bit narrower, but its on a big slope so not much use unless we level it out - and as we're both rubbish gardeners I doubt that'll happen!!!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 28th, 2007 9:27pm (Nov 28th 2007)
     
    Hello chief chicken -welcome from me as well! Great banty stories there.
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 1:20pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Aww CC, I want to sit in your garden and watch the chaos... :)

    It sounds so much fun, congrats!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 6:25pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     
    Well actually, in this weather it looks like the Somme. There are trenches foriming where the rabbits burrowed a bit further than we realised, and the Long-Suffering Eric went out to survey the damage and sank up to his knees, like a Cap'n going down with his ship. He came in muttering darkly about rabbit pie, but he was joking.

    Probably...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 6:28pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     
    That's soooo funny!! Did he salute as he went down?! I'd pop out and count the bunnies .. you never know!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 6:31pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     
    Oh thanks for the great laugh Chief. :) Tell Eric the bunnies can come live with me.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 6:48pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     
    No, Kate, I regret to say that he employed a deep and wideranging knowlledge of Anglo-Saxon. If I knew where chickens' ears were, I'd've covered 'em.
    Sorry, Dianeon (how do you SAY that? Is it Dee-ann-on? Sorry to be dim), but the rabbits stay. Eric has evidently been Very Very Bad in a past life and Must Be Punished...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 7:01pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     
    You crack me up! I bet Eric rolls his eyes at you and just lets you get on with it! I bet the chickens could teach him a curse or 2 themselves!
    Its Diane on Whidbey - its an island over in America. I thought it was some weird and wonderful variation too til I realised where Diane lives and googled that too. (Isn't google great!)
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 7:13pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     
    My friend's impersonation of Eric entails pulling a resigned face and saying 'She does wot she likes' in a lugubrious tone. Say no more!
    Thank you for explaining Diane's name - I might as well make a fool of myself while I'm new, then you'll all be absolutely certain that you're dealing with an idiot, instead of just wondering...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 7:15pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     
    Sounds like you're just the right level for us lot!!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 7:55pm (Nov 30th 2007) edited
     
    Yes, thanks Kate :) :)

    Ok - my turn to hang my head and ask a question... Chief - are you are boy or a girl? Just thought it was important to ask straight out, after the Ollie mishap. :) (I thought Ollie was a boy for about a year.) Anyway, at a minimum I've just proved that this really is Idiotville...

    I'm still chuckling about "frizzle." We do a lot of US/UK translation - never dawned on me that frizzle wasn't a common UK term for something.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 8:13pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     
    Female! Too long in the tooth to be a girl though...I'll explain the Chief Chicken; I have long held the belief that I could never be friends with someone I couldn't give a rubber chicken to, and said this to a friend in idle chitchat. And so was born the Ancient Order of the Rubber Chicken,(a group of like minded women (and Gerald the Real Rubber Chicken) who meet once a month or so to terrorise foreign waiters in restaurants in mid-Buckinghamshire) and I was given the title Chief Chicken, see. Stupid, innit?
    Frizzle is a common UK term for chickens having a bad hair day. Look 'em up on Google and grin!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeNov 30th, 2007 10:11pm (Nov 30th 2007)
     
    They're great Diane, such amazing hair do's!!!

    My son's girlfriend bought him a rubber chicken a couple of weeks ago. If you squeeze it a clear 'egg' with a hard yellow 'yolk' pops out of its, er, bottom! Very disturbing - and very smelly. Rubber toys do not smell right. Perhaps he should join your order!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 1st, 2007 1:27am (Dec 1st 2007) edited
     
    It sounds like its your son's girlfriend who should join the Order... I love it that its ancient :) Will women from across the pond ever be allowed entry?

    Hmmm do I google *frizzle?* I'll check it out!
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeDec 1st, 2007 8:35am (Dec 1st 2007)
     

    no longer a member

    Chief Chicken you are a lady ???? oooooh I thought you were perhaps a gentleman as well, see how we can all make mistakes.....

    Ok ladies of the other side of the pond.... Translations are always good, as American language is so different to that of us Anglo saxons.

    Trunk
    fender
    Gas
    station wagon


    are all names of or parts of cars.... wonder what the English names are... do you know?
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 1st, 2007 5:43pm (Dec 1st 2007) edited
     
    Lets see...I've heard some of these... (don't laugh if I blow it :) )

    trunk-bonnet (?)
    fender - dunno
    gas-petrol
    station wagon - hmmm, don't know ... SUV? lol

    Kate (& CC) you were right frizzles ROCK!! :)
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 1st, 2007 7:16pm (Dec 1st 2007)
     
    Wazza; that means I live to frizzle another day if you've been looking for hemales! Thought that might have been you going through Wendover in a police landrover today...
    There, Diane, told you frizzles had bad hair days!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 1st, 2007 7:34pm (Dec 1st 2007)
     
    PS, Diane; we have three Rubber Chickens your side of the pond; Headless had to go and live in Florida with her husband's silly job, and Southern Fried and her Mum. Mother Hen, looked after her when she first got there, so we made 'em Honorary Hens! There's Chief, Chunky, Cheeky, Cheerful, Cherub, Chartered (an accountant who is silly - how strange is that?) and Free-Range (who's looking out for a Cockerel)!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 1st, 2007 11:15pm (Dec 1st 2007) edited
     
    Do Southern Fried & her mother live with Headless or separate families? & Mother Hen is not the Southern Fried's mother but someone else? If so, are any of them somewhere besides Florida? Sorry, as an ancient order - it'll take me awhile to sort out its complexities. I agree, it is astounding to find an accountant in the flock :)

    I can see how frizzles would need to drive fast - to take full advantage of their locks. I wonder if wazza ever WILL actually stop you. That would be so funny. Do you have a rubber chicken hanging from your mirror so he will recognize you? How much is a speeding ticket there? Its a minimum of about $100 here - usually a bit more :( & then there is your insurance going up. Not that I speed. You see wazza I just had these shoes on that were heavier than all my other shoes...didn't realize I was pressing the pedal harder than I typically do. Really. No REALLY. The WSP who stopped me (nice fellow I hasten to say) wasn't impressed with my dilemma.

    The other ticket? Well that was just the hill - its too steep. No one can go 25 miles per hour up that hill. You would just slide backwards. & I have a stick shift - I've tried its too steep for second gear and not steep enough for first. This time it was a Coupeville Marshal - yah, just like out of the wild west. Only more irritating.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd, 2007 2:38am (Dec 2nd 2007)
     
    I got my ticket on Marlow Hill, a great long 1 in 5 gradient hill which I trudged up and down to school every day for seven years! It's a 30 mile an hour limit going down, and apparently I was doing 37. Sixty of our Earth pounds, Diane - about $120, I suppose. And no slippy shoe excuse, either. I drove a slow old car for 20 years and never got a ticket, but each time I've had a new car (twice) I've had a ticket within the first few months. Sigh...jealousy is a terrible thing, Wazza!
    I haven't got a rubber chicken in the car, but Wazza would know it was me, as there aren't many female piano tuners batting about in Buckinghamshire. Just me, in fact, I think!
    Southern Fried and her ma live somewhere nearish to Headless, but I don't know how many miles that is...as they say, the Americans think 100 years is a long time, and the English think 100 miles is a long way! :0 It could be Destin or Pinacolada or somesuch place. No, Pensacola. Knew there was a drink in it somewhere...Headless is in Niceville. She says, but personally I think the name sounds extremely unlikely, and that she's trying to shake me off...
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd, 2007 2:57am (Dec 2nd 2007) edited
     
    Oh god - I don't think I've laughed that loud at a forum comment in awhile C. Chick. :) The Pincolada/Cola thing. I think I went through each change of mind with you. *What? Wrrr? Wa? Oh!* LOL

    Niceville? Hmmm.

    Its REAL Sadly the mullet festival they refer to is for a fish, not the hairdo

    So, are women piano tuners visually identifiable? Funny, I think the exact value of my tickets have been $120 each time. Can't believe THAT's the similarity in all this. I've never heard the years/miles thing. 100 miles - that's roughly what I drive when going to & from Seattle two times a week. And I doubt I drive by many things much older than 100 years the entire time :)
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd, 2007 11:24am (Dec 2nd 2007)
     
    Women piano tuners (note careful avoidance of term 'lady') are a recognisable phenomenomenomenon when they drive smart cars decorated with piano keys all over the doors and their name on the back...
    Headless hasn't mentioned the Mullet Festival...sounds like the Squash Festival in that Doc Hollywood film, ie, highly unlikely. Perhaps she thought if she mentioned it, I'd DEFINITELY break off international relations, dismissing her as either completely raving and beyond help, or desperate to get shot of me.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd, 2007 12:41pm (Dec 2nd 2007)
     
    LOVE the names of the chicks in your order CC!! My husband was caught by one of those damn camera vans they park at various places to raise a bit of income - I mean increase road safety. Do they not realise that we slow down to miss out on the photo opportunity, then speed back up afterwards?! He was on his bike and spotted it at the last minute to get down to 40+ in a 40. You know how bikers are Wazza!!
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd, 2007 3:22pm (Dec 2nd 2007)
     

    no longer a member

    trunk-bonnet (?) WRONG = Boot
    fender - dunno = BUMPER
    gas-petrol Correct
    station wagon - hmmm, don't know ... SUV? lol = Estate care

    Good try though
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd, 2007 9:50pm (Dec 2nd 2007)
     
    Boot! What's a bonnet then? We say bumper as well. I wonder where the term estate car comes from.

    Carrying on with the language theme - which makes sense to me under the heading Bantam Chickens, because we pretty immediately got introduced to frizzles... Anyway, where I live (not sure this is true throughout the US) *lady* is rarely used. Although it may be more socio/political than geographic. My female friends & I call each other *women,* (or when in a real hardcore mood: *womyn*) and *girls* only as a joke. We also look down our noses at men who call us girls :) One of my female friends calls women *gals.* When talking about a group of women we generally (and counter-intuitively) say: *guys;* as in *you guys* or *those guys.* Except for the one friend who continues on with *gals.* LOL.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd, 2007 10:00pm (Dec 2nd 2007)
     
    I hate it when landlords/waiters/barmen call us 'guys' when we're evidently not. We burn guys on bonfires on November the 5th! Hardened feminists call themselves 'wimmin'. I often get the comment that 'You don't often see a lady tuning a piano', to which I repress the answer 'And you aren't going to now!' (My parents wanted a little girl, but got me...)
    Oh, and a bonnet's a bonnet by any other name!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd, 2007 3:59pm (Dec 3rd 2007)
     
    Yes, I was a bit of a tom-boy too! My husband coaches the local female ice hockey team and we usually refer to them as either the girls, ladies (which they're most definately not!) or Vixens (which is the team name).
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd, 2007 5:50pm (Dec 3rd 2007)
     
    Blimey, Kate, do you play ice-hockey? It looks a bit vicious to me...
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd, 2007 7:45pm (Dec 3rd 2007) edited
     
    We used to play pretend hockey, my sisters & I, when we lived in Saskatoon. There one could just take a garden hose & make a rink outside in a matter of minutes. We'd chase a puck around with our sticks - every girl for herself. It was great because if you fell near the edge you landed in several feet of soft snow. You could also launch a sister, by placing your hockey stick in that center space between her feet, while she was zooming away in front of you with the puck, and neatly twisting it so that she got hooked. Good times.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd, 2007 8:32pm (Dec 3rd 2007)
     
    ...for you, maybe; for your sister???! :0
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 6:44am (Dec 4th 2007)
     

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    Bonnet covers the front engine compartment...

    Jolly Hockey sticks... one of my Ex;s played Field hockey for several Oxford teams including a mixed team... ooooh injuries were plenty
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 3:38pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    I skate but I don't play. My husband coaches the girls and also the newbies and weak players on a Sunday morning at 7am (while I'm still curled up in bed!) Both my sons play (one's a netminder, mad thing that he is) so I am chief timekeeper/scorer. Keeps me busy and means I can't shout abuse as a 'minor official'!!

    Its my youngest's dream to turn on the hose and create his own rink. He'd be so jealous.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 7:51pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    He just needs to be somewhere VERY cold and very dry - like Saskatoon. :) It really was a lot of fun I have to say. All winter there were ice trails where people had walked along in the last person's foot steps through fields. We could skate on them for miles. Really great.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 7:56pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    I remember one year someone skating down a service road from the rink to the bus stop that'd been turned to ice by kids sliding up and down on the snow. We laughed and cheered - until he hit a patch of tarmac with no ice and went A over T and ruined the edges on his skates! The same lad also skated on the local lake (well, pond!) and fell through. Also extremely funny when you don't (as a teenager) realise the danger. He got out OK but was very cold on his walk home!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 8:09pm (Dec 4th 2007) edited
     
    Hullo! We're on at the same time.

    I've never seen anything like the Saskatoon trails again. The ice was packed pretty deep and to each side was that great soft snow. It was very very good exercise I can tell you! I wonder if it still happens there or if most of the fields have buildings on them now.

    That boy sounds like a young Evil Kineval :)
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 8:14pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    Yes we are - and a guest. Hello guest - welcome!

    No, I think he was just a bit of an idiot - anything for attention. Actually, revise that, yes he was just like Evil!!
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 8:24pm (Dec 4th 2007) edited
     
    Bless him. Great guy.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 8:25pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    I'm trying to think of the riskiest thing I've ever done.

    Can't come up with much. I'm (pardon me girls) kinda chicken. Probably going to Europe for 7 months on my own at 17. Or walking around New York City in the early hours when I lived there. No take that last one back. It was the roomate choices I initially made there... :) Oh no - I have a real one. When I was a cyclist (owned no car, biked every where for years) I used to bend over my handle bars, so far that my hip bones leaned on them and my nose nearly touched the tire, to gain speed when going down steep hills. One of the racing coaches I road with finally talked me out of doing that...

    So - what's the greatest risk you've taken?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 8:35pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    Did Ollie pop and in and out for a quick visit then?!

    I can't think of anything risky because I don't do 'danger'. I sometimes used to walk home from the one bus if I missed the connection otherwise it was a 20 minute wait and I'd have been grounded. But I always had my skates in my hand to hit someone with, and rehearsed whether I'd scream. My brother told me not to scream, but to shout FIRE as people will look to see where a fire is but ignore a scream. I would frequently be approached by rogue taxi drivers trying to get me to get in the car, but I never EVER did!
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 8:40pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    Yes, Ollie's here.
    I was a little stunned at thinking about 'My riskier things I have done'.
    I grabbed a pencil and started to write stuff down that I have never put into words before. The idea was that I note down a few and then grade them.
    I will have to come back on this one.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 8:46pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    I suppose its more about "risky things you wouldn't mind the world knowing about"!
    • CommentAuthorollie in UK
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 9:00pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    Yeah, that helps sort out a lot of them. Can you hear my pencil scribbling out my lists?
    I will put the mouse right there....
    OK.. You hear?
    But again: I will have to come back on this one.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 9:10pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    Wow Ollie, that's some risky life!!!!!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 4th, 2007 11:37pm (Dec 4th 2007)
     
    I welded a CD to the oven hob just before Kathleen was due to come and scrape off the top 4" of filth...does that count?
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 5th, 2007 4:57am (Dec 5th 2007) edited
     
    Ollie - just that fact that you have a LIST and have to rate them... Oh please tell us more.

    CC - Yes, I would say it definitely counts that you would endanger raising the ire of the woman who assists you with your self medication procedure :) What's a *hob* again? Or is that *an hob* ?
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 5th, 2007 6:19pm (Dec 5th 2007)
     
    It's the bit on top of the oven where you put the saucepans and it gets hot. And you get a little frying pan off the sheila maid rack overhead and inadvertently put it down on top of a CD which was stuck to the front of some stupid magazine. And because it was sticky, it adheres to the underside of the pan, but because you're rummaging for eggs you don't notice it. And you put it on the hob and start to salivate in anticipation of a fried egg sarnie. And the kitchen door bursts open and Eric says 'What the HELL are you burning????' And because you have a cold, you say, 'Well, praps the eggs are off,' and lift the pan up to his more sensitive nose...and watch in horror as little silver strings of melted CD stretch from hob to underside of pan. And Eric looks at you in mute horror and says 'Katleen's going to MURDER you...'
    And so-called friends persist in giving you hints on hundreds of different ways to cook CDs for months, nay, YEARS after...
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 5th, 2007 6:36pm (Dec 5th 2007)
     
    CC that is a GREAT story. And beautifully written. :D :D Does it count as taking a risk? No, I think not because there was no intention there - it was too unconscious. Of course, you did nearly burn the house down. Hmmm.....

    So the hob is the electrical element? (Usually four of 'em on the top section of a stove?)
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 5th, 2007 7:35pm (Dec 5th 2007)
     
    CC you have GOT to write a book - I'd be in stitches for the rest of my life!! I love reading your posts!!

    The hob is the thing saucepans sit on to get hot - either electric or gas, usually 4 but sometimes more (in houses with BIG stoves!) What do you call them then?
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 5th, 2007 8:29pm (Dec 5th 2007)
     
    Hotplates, perhaps? No good asking me...if it ain't a CD I can't cook it, appartently. Not even the labrador would eat my cookery lesson results. And they say labs are dim...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 5th, 2007 11:34pm (Dec 5th 2007)
     
    Ah yes, probably. You couldn't even cook a CD - from the description it was a bit stringy!

    My dog used to eat my mom's cooking - she (the dog) must've had a cast iron stomach because my mom could burn gravy. Everything was either over or undercooked, never just right. Even ready meals were vile!!!!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 6th, 2007 12:15am (Dec 6th 2007)
     
    We call them (electric) elements or (if gas) burners.

    I can cook noodles. I'm great at cooking noodles :)

    My mother was (well, is) an ok cook. But during one memorable meal we all sat down to the table, took a bite of the "beouf bourgonion" (forgive the spelling), stared at each other in consternation-having each ceased chewing, and then simultaneously spit our mouthfuls unto our respective plates. My mother went and looked at the meat package and read aloud: "Dog meat." I thought the truly amazing thing was that our palates were actually good enough to even notice. (No it wasn't the meat of dog, but a packet of food the butcher had put out of leavings to feed one's dog.)
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeDec 6th, 2007 8:27am (Dec 6th 2007) edited
     

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    Just to show you what our loveley Chief Chicken is talking about

    The HOB on the cooker... this is my Cooker
    The grill and the Double oven are over tothe left out of the picture.....

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    If you wonder why the 2 electrical sockets are hanging off the wall its because when the picture was taken whilst the kitchen was being built

    This pic shows the double ovens and grill

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    and just for show, this next pic is the kitchen with the old units removed and with the previous free standing cooker still to go

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    and finally the Cooker in action with My good lady wife cooking a Curry

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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 6th, 2007 11:44am (Dec 6th 2007)
     
    See, Wazza has one of those big flash hobs I was referring to - 5 gas rings! Nice kitchen, could probably fit 3 of mine inside yours - so jealous!

    My husband worked with a guy who came over from Korea, and after living here for a few months said he was really impressed with our supermarkets for selling 'their' food. They asked him what he meant by "their" food. (You can see what's coming can't you?!) He said all the different types of canned dog, but he wished they'd put which colour they were, as yellow dogs taste better than the others. I hope no one can confirm or deny that!!!!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 6th, 2007 6:15pm (Dec 6th 2007)
     
    So - by 'listening' in on the dialogue between Kate & Wazza, and with the very cool assist from Wazza's pictures of his amazing kitchen... Its sounds like the hob is the whole unit (stove top to me) and that when you want to talk about the individual parts you say something closer to what we do (gas ring - or burner)? Or is when you put something 'on the hob' can you also mean the particular individual burner?

    Holly says: Yellow dog? Like meeee??
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 6th, 2007 7:29pm (Dec 6th 2007)
     
    Or you can ring Marlow 482502 and Kim will cook you whatever you ask for...crispy duck a speciality! I always take the line of least resistance when it comes to cooking...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 6th, 2007 8:28pm (Dec 6th 2007)
     
    Apparently he used to lick his lips if he saw a yellow lab!! Buy some hair dye Holly!

    Is that number on speed dial CC?!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 6th, 2007 8:32pm (Dec 6th 2007)
     
    No, we have a 1930's black bakelite telephone that weighs a ton and rings like a fire alarm. Speed dial? We should be so lucky.One has to WORK at presentation of a good meal, doesn't one? (Yeah, yeah, and a CD garnish...)
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 6th, 2007 8:43pm (Dec 6th 2007)
     
    With a dial to spin round to get the numbers? Didn't think those were still out there in homes. We took my son and his mate to the science museum in Birmingham about 10 years ago and he'd never seen a phone with a dial, only buttons, and didn't know how to work it!

    I'd still rather do the washing up ...
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 6th, 2007 8:48pm (Dec 6th 2007)
     
    Well that's why it's called a dial, innit? My mate's kids were entranced when we let them ring home on it. They also went bug-eyed at the real fire, and Marcus told me to make sure I blew it out before I went to bed!
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 8:41am (Dec 7th 2007)
     

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    CC I bet your home is a wonderful place all these non modern pieces of equipment..... wazza must call in for a coffee soon.... whisper me a contact detail and mine is 1.5 sugars and milk... or bell me on that great black phone
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 9:34am (Dec 7th 2007)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Real fires are so cosy - we have a small log-burning stove in our front room which we hardly ever use but last year the central heating broke and no plumber would come out over Xmas so we had a real fire every night and it was very nice!

    Those old phones look great but when you start dialling you start to pray the number has lots of 1's and no 9's :) (1's only need a small rotation of the dial, the higher numbers you need to turn the dial right round and wait for it to return before you can dial another number - it makes your dialling take ages!)
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 5:42pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    You dial 6 numbers for a local call? We dial at least 7 ("222-2222" is how its written) but where I live (south Whidbey with a small private phone company - maybe the only left in the US) everything is long distance. So have to dial 11 numbers to make most calls...
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 6:56pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    So much for a whisper only going to the intended wotsit; good job there are no loonies reading this! O dear...ah, well, you lot over in forrin parts had better ring to assess the biscuit situation before setting out from the colonies! :)
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 7:41pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    Neil; heavy 'phones keep the telephone bills down owing to exhaustion. Incoming gossipy calls are conducted on the plastic modern jobbie by the bed (some gossip is exhausting). And as for time dialling...well, I'm self-employed, me time's me own! We don't go in for modern stuff much - my niece, then aged 5,having discovered all in one visit that we didn't have a video, microwave, computer (at the time) OR an upstairs to our house, asked me confidentially 'Are you VERY poor?'
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 8:27pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    CC you still crack me up! Just to reassure you, if you whispered your details to Wazza he and you are the only ones who can see them (unless Neil is able to as hen keeper!) I can't see it. Whispers tend to have a different coloured background - on mine they're purple incoming and yellow outgoing!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 8:35pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    Yes, the penny dropped eventually...just in time to stop me having to run to M&S for the special offer chocolate biscuits in case everyone comes over from across the pond! My threat stands to Wazza - own brand Rich Tea if he pulls faces at Tuppence or Gingerbits...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 8:37pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    Make sure a little bit of the biscuit is missing and tell him the cats/rabbits/chickens get first taste!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 8:42pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    I might give him a chocolate biscuit...slightly melted with a few ginger hairs stuck in. Homoeopathy for his cat phobia!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 8:46pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    I dare ya!! He can't arrest you for it and if he did we'd bust you out.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 8:50pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    Well, he's on probation. One funny look at the cats, and Gingerbits will have a bald bit. And Wazza will have a furball. Attempted choking? Grievous Bodily Furball? Aggravated Coughing? Assault with a deadly furball?
    Get cooking, girl...6" file should do...
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 8:54pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    Kate - and any other cat fans - go to You Tube and search for 'Cat Man Do' animation. Enjoy it...!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 7th, 2007 8:57pm (Dec 7th 2007)
     
    I was e-mailed that about a month ago and have it saved to my desktop. Whenever I feel fed up I play it and it always puts a smile on my face. Foggy regularly does that to my husband!!! Best piece of cat animation I've ever seen - didn't know it was on You Tube!