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    • CommentAuthorgoosegog
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd, 2011 3:44pm (Jan 23rd 2011)
     
    Hello everyone!
    Barbara is not herself and need some advice please. She sounds like a duck, honking away and her breathing is laboured. She is breathing with her mouth open all the time and sneezes occassionally. She does seem quite happy though and her comb is bright red. Is there anything we can give her please?

    Thanks very much
    Andy & Ferg
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd, 2011 4:08pm (Jan 23rd 2011)
     
    I'm sorry to hear that goosegog - I hope someone can give you some advice soon. Its good to hear that she seems quite happy apart from that and I hope she recovers soon.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd, 2011 5:17pm (Jan 23rd 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Do you worm your girls regularly?

    It could be gapeworm, in which case you can treat it with Flubenvet. I think you'll need to worm them once ever six months on that, but check on the instructions, every wormer is different. But gapeworm causes a chicken to 'gape' with the beak open, laboured breathing and unusual sounds whilst breathing.

    Alternatively it could be a respiratory problem. What bedding do you use in your nest box? If you use hay it could have been caused by the mould spores that grow on that, so throw it away and replace with sawdust (dust extracted) or straw.

    So, worm your girls if needed. Add apple cider vinegar to their water, and offer some natural plain yoghurt as a treat. I'd suggest taking her to the vets too just to check if it's a respiratory problem that needs treating with meds.

    Hope she improves :face-smile:
    • CommentAuthorgoosegog
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd, 2011 8:51pm (Jan 23rd 2011)
     
    Thanks Red,
    I've ordered some Flubenvet and see if this helps. I'll go inspecting their poop tomorrow for evidence too.

    Fingers crossed she'll bounce back to her normal bossy self :)

    Ferg & Andy
    • CommentAuthorgoosegog
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd, 2011 8:09am (Feb 2nd 2011)
     
    Hi just to let you know Barbara is well again :) I gave her Flubenvet and it started to work within a day! She seems to be back to her old boisterous self which is lovely.
    Thank you so much for your advice
    Ferg & Andy
    • CommentAuthorTrevs Mum
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd, 2011 8:13am (Feb 2nd 2011)
     
    That is great news.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd, 2011 5:51pm (Feb 2nd 2011)
     
    Hooray! :thumbup:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd, 2011 10:23pm (Feb 2nd 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Posted By: goosegogHi just to let you know Barbara is well again<img src=" />I gave her Flubenvet and it started to work within a day! She seems to be back to her old boisterous self which is lovely.
    Thank you so much for your advice
    Ferg & Andy

    Great news! :laugh:
    Glad the Flubenvet was so effective :face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd, 2011 10:42pm (Feb 2nd 2011)
     
    Brilliant! Love it when they recover so quickly!
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd, 2011 4:11pm (Feb 3rd 2011)
     
    :cheer: brilliant news.
    • CommentAuthorjane rowlinson
    • CommentTimeMar 15th, 2011 8:07pm (Mar 15th 2011)
     
    That's really good news. It's frightening how quickly they go downhill, and equally SO reassuring when you hit on the right treatment and up they go again. I hate leaving my little menagerie for that reason. No one else, no matter how well meaning, knows quite what the signs are when one of them is not themself - and coming back is always fraught with the worry of what I am going to find.:face-smile:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMar 15th, 2011 10:29pm (Mar 15th 2011)
     
    What worries me is the apparent lack od knowledge encountered by many of our number from vets; almost as though hens don't count. I worry about what'll happen if any of mine ever need a vet...
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMar 18th, 2011 9:40pm (Mar 18th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I still blame that *$*$*$* vet for Milly dying so young, and always will :cursing:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 4th, 2011 4:38pm (Jul 4th 2011)
     
    I think Livia might have gapeworm; she's sitting a bit quiet, got a bit of a dirty bum and is breathing with her beak open a bit. Does it sound like it to you? If so, can i get Flubenvet from the vets?
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 5th, 2011 3:01pm (Jul 5th 2011)
     
    Hellooooo...anybody out there?:face-sad:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJul 5th, 2011 3:52pm (Jul 5th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Sorry you've had no responses CC...I'm in the process of replying, but just wanted to let you know I'm not ignoring you!
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJul 5th, 2011 4:03pm (Jul 5th 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Hey CC,

    How is she in herself? Eating and drinking, walking?

    There are a few things it could be...

    1) If the weather's as hot by you as it has been here, she could simply be far far too hot. I know Tilly and Penny suffer horibly with the heat because they have thick feathering, even Milly in extreme temps; they'd just sit in a melted pool with their beaks open and pant horrible. We started feeding them frozen foods (frozen apples and things) and adding ice cubes to their water too...make sure there are shadey places etc.

    2) It could be a respiratory problem. Are your chucks wormed regularly? If they're wormed frequently then it's most likely not gapeworm, but will be a respiratory disease so will need to be seen by a (good!) vet.

    3) Then there's the possibility it is gapeworm! Is she stretching her neck out at the same time as panting, like so it looks uncomfortable?

    You can treat this with Flubenvet, which you can buy from most feed / farm stores, or off the internet, and I guess the vets. You could phone first and ask if they'd be able to get some in stock for you if they don't have it now.
    Hope the worming helps - if not, back to the vets to see what they think! Good luck :)
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 6th, 2011 6:36pm (Jul 6th 2011)
     
    She's not gaping today and is eating yoghourt quite happily but still sitting a little away from the others. She's grouchy with Sinead too, when she went after her yoghourt. I think I'll do the flubenvet (no, they aren't wormed) and keep a close eye and go to the vet if she's still off. She's not laying either - I think only Sinead is.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 12th, 2011 8:13pm (Jul 12th 2011)
     
    Went to the vet with Livia today (she is SOOOOO cross with me at being put in a box, taken out of a box, prodded, and put back in the box)and she is too thin, has been given antibiotics. However, she isn't egg bound, hasn't got gapes or sourcrop and seems otherwise fine. Sigh. I hate it when animals are ill; I wish they could say 'Well, I've got this pain HERE, see...'
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJul 12th, 2011 10:56pm (Jul 12th 2011)
     
    Yes, I was always like that with the rats. Dogs seem to be about the only animals that try to tell you where it hurts. Can you feed her up CC? What do you feed a chicken to help it gain weight? I'm sure Livia would love to live in the house - LSE is probably getting a bit too comfy in his armchair and needs it taking over by a hen! I hope she starts to feel better soon - or at least learns forgiveness! :heart:
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJul 12th, 2011 11:25pm (Jul 12th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Chickens are terrible for trying to work out what's wrong with them too :/

    At least you know it's nothing too serious then, and a lot of the common serious conditions have been ruled out. I hope Livia picks up soon CC
    :rainbow:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 13th, 2011 3:38pm (Jul 13th 2011)
     
    I'm giving her cheese, which she loves, but I think she's got wise to the Baytril in the yoghurt! I may have to try and get it into her neat; any helpful tricks on how to get them to open their beaks, Red? I have a syringe from the vet.
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeJul 13th, 2011 8:54pm (Jul 13th 2011) edited
     
    Believe me CC the only way i did it was by force Sara held her while i forced her beak open and then straight in with the syringe its all over in seconds.You have to be cruel to be kind.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJul 14th, 2011 1:41pm (Jul 14th 2011) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Yeah, here's what we did with Mills:

    Have one person kneel down, and wedge the chicken between their legs (bottom facing towards the person's crotch, head facing forwards). That person can then hold the chicken firm with their legs, and with one hand can hold the chicken's neck.

    The second person kneels in front of the chicken, with one hand holds the sides of the beak (this should cause it to open, if not you'll have to force it open as gently as possible) and with the other hand squirt the liquid in.

    Funnily enough the first time Lyle met Milly was when she was on Baytril, and he held her between his legs...because she was poorly she had a dirty bottom at the time, and she left his jeans covered in runny poo ahahahaha :tooth:

    We weren't even going out at the time!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 14th, 2011 5:53pm (Jul 14th 2011)
     
    She seems to be ticking her head a bit, is that a symptom or something? The vet couldn't see any mites.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJul 15th, 2011 5:42pm (Jul 15th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Hmm, that's usually an indicator of mites...it can happen in crested breeds when the feathers irritate the eyes / ears and need a trim, any chance of it being that what with them being frizzles?

    Head shaking can be caused by gapeworm (which the vet has ruled out) or respiratory problems too...are her nostrils clear and clean?

    How often is she doing it?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJul 15th, 2011 5:43pm (Jul 15th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Also, red mites won't normally be found on the birds which could be why your vet didn't see any; they feed on the birds at night and then hide in the woodwork during the day.

    :confused:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 16th, 2011 11:54pm (Jul 16th 2011)
     
    She's stopped doing it now...still quiet and off-colour, but still eating. However, can smell Baytril in a grape from 3,000 miles.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJul 18th, 2011 8:18pm (Jul 18th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Haha, do you think you're going to have to wrestle with her? :P

    I hope she picks up soon.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 19th, 2011 5:29pm (Jul 19th 2011)
     
    She's eating grated cheese like a good 'un. Just not the cheese with the antiboos on...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJul 19th, 2011 9:20pm (Jul 19th 2011)
     
    What a clever girl!!!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 20th, 2011 4:32pm (Jul 20th 2011)
     
    Hmmm....!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 27th, 2011 7:26pm (Jul 27th 2011)
     
    Livia died yesterday.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeJul 27th, 2011 11:41pm (Jul 27th 2011)
     
    Oh CC, I am so sorry. I was just looking back through the posts and it seemed the vet had ruled out anything serious so it must've been a shock for you.

    Sleep soundly Livia. :heart:
    Thinking of you CC. :heart:
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeJul 28th, 2011 4:16am (Jul 28th 2011)
     
    Oh No, CC..I'm so very sorry to hear you lost little Livia. How heartbreaking! :face-crying:

    RIP Livia:heart:

    Thinking of you CC:flowers:
    • CommentAuthorleevaux
    • CommentTimeJul 28th, 2011 7:59am (Jul 28th 2011)
     
    So Sorry to here about Livia CC will be thinking about you xxxx

    R.I.P Livia :heart:
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJul 28th, 2011 6:48pm (Jul 28th 2011)
     
    Thanks everyone. She just faded away...
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeJul 29th, 2011 10:35am (Jul 29th 2011)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    :heart:
    • CommentAuthorTrevs Mum
    • CommentTimeAug 8th, 2011 11:51am (Aug 8th 2011)
     
    RIP dear little hen.:heart: