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    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeDec 18th, 2007 8:02pm (Dec 18th 2007)
     
    We have had another instance of a strange kitten birth in our area. The lady down the road had a female cat who got pregnant. Before the birth of the kitten, the mama wanted to stay very close to Miss Dot, the lady. She only had one kitten and it too had a bob tail . It lived until the mama cat ate it.... all but the head . Then the mama cat turned vicious towards Miss Dot. I have a couple of pictures of cats from our other neighbors who had mama cats give birth to short tail kittens. I tried to send an email to Neil so he could post them but it got returned as " no address ".
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 18th, 2007 8:04pm (Dec 18th 2007)
     
    OMG Janice - it sounds like you all need to hire an animal psychologist at this point! Just amazing. (And sad, too, for the kitten, the mama kitty & Miss Dot.)
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 18th, 2007 9:22pm (Dec 18th 2007)
     
    It seems that once again nature has taken a hand. I wonder if mama cat 'knew' that it wasn't a 'real' kitten, but a hybrid. Also odd it was just one again - wonder if that's typical of bobcats? Living in the wild would they have one and watch it and nurture it rather than going for lots of kittens and hoping one survived?

    When my Foggy was pregnant she adored me, followed me, sat with me, came and got me when she was delivering. I sat with her all the way through and she really seemed to appreciate it. As soon as the last one was born she turned on me and scratched and bit me quite viciously - my usefulness was no longer needed!
    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeDec 19th, 2007 2:53am (Dec 19th 2007)
     
    My brother, Billy Don , called me tonight and I asked him what he thought about the kitten situations. He majored in animal husbandry at the University. He is under the impression that bobcats and housecats can not produce off-spring together as they have a different number of chromesomes. He thinks that someone within a close range of us may own a breed of cat known as a pixie bob and our cats may be mating with him . According to brother Billy Don, a pixie bob has the features of the bobcat but is not wild. Even though it is rural out here , there are some sub-divisions which have about 100 homes and we have a national guard base a few miles down the road . My neighbor does have a cute bobtailed kitten that was born to a long tailed cat and it is good natured. I will talk to Dr. Derry and see what he knows about pixie bobs and what he knows about the chromesomes since he told me that cats can breed with bobcats. Maybe, there is a way to test their dna. We had a bad tomcat show up during the summer and I had it picked up in case of rabies. It was no bobcat... it had a long tail .... but he was grey striped. He bit me on three occasions. The first time, I was walking in the yard and he ran up and sunk his teeth in the back of my leg.I thought maybe I had stepped on him. The second time he bit me because I ignored him when I went out on the patio and did not feed him at once. He sank his teeth into my leg and began to claw the fool out of me. He bit me the third time because I petted another tomcat in my side yard . He just ran up and bit me on the hand . Lucky for me.. that he was not rabid .
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 19th, 2007 10:11am (Dec 19th 2007)
     
    That is one bad tempered cat Janice!! Usually cats are wary of people they don't know and run away - he was a mad one! We used to have a ginger tom cat hang around our garden. He 'fathered' my Foggy's kittens! He was sociable with me and would allow me to pet him, but not to pick him up. I would feed him titbits occasionally but he didn't seem to come for food, just to sit in the garden as it was safe I think. Then he just stopped coming - I never knew who owned him but he was always covered in bites and scratches. I'd have loved to have homed him but he was far too independent.

    I haven't heard of a pixie-bob, it sounds like a manx cat. I wonder why a mama cat would eat her kitten though? I've heard of dogs eating still-born pups but don't know if cats do that.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeDec 19th, 2007 6:18pm (Dec 19th 2007)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Ouch Janice! Sounds like a very jealous kitty! What happened to him?

    The local garden centre recently got some tiny tiny kittens, and they are gorgeous. One of them is called Smudge and is black and white, absolutely adorable :)
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 19th, 2007 6:23pm (Dec 19th 2007)
     
    Go on, you know you neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed a kitten...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 19th, 2007 10:44pm (Dec 19th 2007)
     
    I've heard of a technique whereby you can cure someone of an allergy by exposing them to the allergen. Therefore, if you got the tiny kitten and exposed it to your mom, she'd eventually become er, not allergic! And as its a tiny kitten the dose would start small and build. So she'd be sick for a while, its worth it for a kitty! (Only joking Helen, wouldn't want Red to kill you with an asthma attack or something like that!!) :)
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 1:26pm (Dec 22nd 2007) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    As much as i love kitties, I'm more of a dog person...Bull Terriers, Border Collies, Pugs = Awwww! :)

    Haha, i think my mum would be the one killing me if i tried that technique :D I've heard you can get hairless cats / dogs for people with allergies, but it's just not the same...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 2:03pm (Dec 22nd 2007)
     
    I miss my dog and will have another one day. Such great company and pets are so good for kids.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 4:39pm (Dec 22nd 2007)
     
    I looked for Holly for a long time. I'm allergic to most dogs. Not to the extent of Helen's allergies, I'm guessing. I just can't pet most of them very long without itching. But not Holly - I can pet her, rub my face in her fur and nothing. For some reason she just doesn't have that oil most doggies have. I've heard that some breeds tend that way (like poodles) and then some dogs (like Holly The Perfect.) I love her. She is a smart and beautiful girl.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 5:13pm (Dec 22nd 2007)
     
    That goes to show that she was made for you - and you for her to give her so much love. Is she called Holly 'cause you got her at Christmas?!
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 6:07pm (Dec 22nd 2007)
     
    Oo, those hairless cats look awful, bless 'em. I asked one customer 'What happened to your cat?' only to be told that it was a Devon Rex, they'd paid God knows what and sold the children to buy it and its name was about half an hour long and mummy had won millions of awards. So foot firmly in gob, I carried on tuning the piano...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 7:36pm (Dec 22nd 2007)
     
    At the cat show last year, I spoke to a woman who was holding one. "You can stroke it she said" so I did - it felt like chamois leather. I turned to my son and said "stroke it Danny" to which he replied "no way, its horrible, I'm not touching that". Luckily the woman wasn't offended - she'd heard it loads of times before.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 9:43pm (Dec 22nd 2007)
     
    My friend has a Chinese hairless Crested dog; he's ever so sweet, bless 'im, but he feels like a warm leather sofa - strange!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 9:56pm (Dec 22nd 2007) edited
     
    I googled *famous redheads* when I was trying to think up a name for Holly. I name all my animals after famous people (Martin = *...Luther King Jr* and Maya = *Angelo*) but I'd kind of run out by the time Holly came along. I love Bonnie Raitt and Holly actually kind of looks like her but for some reason *Bonnie* didn't really fit her. Then I ran across the name *Holly Near,* another feminist musician. Additionally, Holly's dog shelter name was *Wookie* so I thought it would be an easier adjustment for her... :)

    I'm wondering about how the cats are adapting (in an evolutionary sense) to regular episodes of stranger hesitantly touching them while the stranger's child shierk in horror and run away.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 9:58pm (Dec 22nd 2007)
     
    What about Ginger Rogers? :)
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 10:02pm (Dec 22nd 2007)
     
    Oh CC that's excellent - which I'd thought of it. Well, its filed away for the next orange animal who appears :)
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd, 2007 10:04pm (Dec 22nd 2007)
     
    Wierd - my cell phone just rang and it was a supervisor down at the local ferry dock telling me they had a drunk and possibly suicidal woman there and what did I think they should do. (Got my number out of the phone book I'm guessing.) She was begging them not to call the police. I said call the sheriff anyway. Right Wazza?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd, 2007 2:57pm (Dec 23rd 2007)
     
    (Danny was 19 when he insulted the hairless cat!)

    Doesn't the chinese hairless crested dog win the 'ugliest' dog contest every year? They're not exactly lookers, but I'm sure they have a great personality!

    Do they get many suicidal people at the docks? I bet the numbers increase this time of year - must be awful for some people.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd, 2007 6:53pm (Dec 23rd 2007)
     
    Oh Danny, that's TOO funny :)

    Yes, I think you are right about those dogs taking all the prizes. Especially the ones whose tongues are permanently hanging out of one side of their mouths. Add a little drool and presto! First place.

    I know there has been at least one successful suicide there in the time I've lived here. Yes, truly awful. I won't describe it except to say that the whole ferry line had to witness it... As Wazza probably knows first hand, long dark winters, family gatherings (or the lack of them), increased money problems and alcohol/drugs can be a deadly combination. Very scary.
    • CommentAuthorJanice Sansing
    • CommentTimeDec 25th, 2007 12:36am (Dec 25th 2007)
     
    Red, You were asking what happened to the jealous cat .... so I saw the keeper at the animal shelter today and asked . We have an animal friendly shelter which never puts animals to sleep unless they are too ill or unadoptable... such as being viscious. They observed the tom cat to make sure he was Ok and then found him a nice home on a farm along with other cats. They happened to have a man come looking for some mousers. He got neutered at the shelter.. so maybe he is more meek now.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeDec 25th, 2007 12:12pm (Dec 25th 2007)
     
    Its good to know they were able to re-home him and somewhere he can be useful too!
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeMar 17th, 2008 10:09pm (Mar 17th 2008)
     

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