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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 17th, 2008 11:41pm (Apr 17th 2008)
     
    My eldest suggested getting her a chicken for company instead of another rat. Don't think that'd work somehow!
    • CommentAuthorForester
    • CommentTimeApr 18th, 2008 2:58am (Apr 18th 2008)
     
    Geesh, I'm always on by myself! Kate, we have two kids. Both grade school (read: crazy) age. I think your rat Patrick (do you call her Patty for short?) is cute! Does she like treats of any sort?
    • CommentAuthorLynnW
    • CommentTimeApr 18th, 2008 6:13am (Apr 18th 2008)
     
    Kate, your rat is a very cute kid.
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 18th, 2008 8:49pm (Apr 18th 2008)
     
    I tend to call her sweetie most of the time - just because she is a sweetie!

    She loves chicken (sorry!) I give her grapes (just 2 or 3 each evening) and she has some Reggie Rat treats that I give her too. Last night she had cheerios, we have some ratty chocolate drops, and I put some peas in a dish of water for her to go bobbing for. I haven't seen her yet this evening - will have to go wake her up I think - but I try to give her something different each day.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 20th, 2008 9:52pm (Apr 20th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    That's cute, Kate. Our rats used to like plain popcorn, and you can tie it on strings around the cage and giggle as they try and get it off :D We also used to dangle spaghetti strands everywhere and watch them try pull it down :)

    That's a fab idea about the peas!! I could do that with my mice too, right?
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 20th, 2008 11:07pm (Apr 20th 2008)
     
    Yes, I should think they'd like it. I use a biggish shallow white dish but you could use smaller for mice (obviously!) Molly is about mouse size at the mo which is why she's so cute.

    Patrick is going mad because she can't get to Molly. I took Molly out of her cage and put Pat in - she was scared and jumped back out, then couldn't find how to get into her own cage. And they say rats are intelligent?! Not when they're panicking they're not.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2008 8:23am (Apr 21st 2008)
     
    Who is Molly? Wot?

    That photo is Patrick, right? A sweet little black-hooded rat. Awww.

    Yawn. I'm almost back. Did anyone miss me? :cry:
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2008 8:36am (Apr 21st 2008)
     
    ?? What happened to all the threads started by Janice?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2008 4:00pm (Apr 21st 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Yes, we missed you Diane! Nobody to get annoyed at the quickly spreading runny poo without you here :(
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2008 6:30pm (Apr 21st 2008)
     
    Pop down to the Rats thread and you'll see who Molly (or maybe Lolly!) is!

    We missed you LOADS Diane! Welcome back - how's Obama? How do you know which threads Janice started to notice they're missing?
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      CommentAuthorAce
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2008 7:02pm (Apr 21st 2008)
     
    Welcome back Diane!:)
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2008 7:55pm (Apr 21st 2008)
     
    Awww. Thanks Red, & Kate, & Ace!

    Oooo. I'm guessing we have a new ratty in the family. Can hardly wait to read the thread. I took my nephew to the local pet store just for fun and now his mom is a little ... PO'd because he wants a hamster. (Secretly hoping he gets one. Shhhh.) Hmmm. Is it "a hamster" or "an hamster" ??

    Red - it is UNBELIEVABLE to me that I am internationally identified with excrement. Think of that, think of me. Apparently.

    OBAMA GAINED A DELEGATE in the County that I am responsible for organizing. I haven't heard that any other location achieved that. I am SO proud of all the Democratic cats I have been herding for the past few months. They really stood up for our man! CC - I haven't met Hillary anywhere in my travels so far. But I have my stick and am ready to deliver your message. ;) Thanks for asking about it Kate. :D
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2008 8:10pm (Apr 21st 2008)
     
    Janice had a thread about the funniest things kids do and I don't see it. Because of that, I looked for anything by her - and only find one thread...?

    Tomorrow is the Pennsylvania Primary. If Obama does well there it should (well, if Clinton actually cares about not destroying the Democratic Party here) be over. Influential people will want her to concede. The problem is, she will likely still win by a little and hold to her belief that she can talk the remaining super delegates (otherwise known as the Party Elite) to vote against the will of the people and give the nomination to her. Anyway, fingers crossed, if Obama blows her away in this primary she really doesn't have her remaining argument that she is the only one who can win the big States against McCain. God, can you believe we still have to have a general election??

    I noticed, at our 2nd (County level) caucus this weekend that Clinton had lower attendance than they could have had. Meaning that a number of her delegates did not show up. Ours showed en mass. Halfway through the caucus there is a time for each side to give a speech to the crowd. Then a final vote occurs. We won our additional delegate at that point - so I think there is a lot of re-thinking going on among Clinton supporters right now. There is no way a speech could have convinced any of the Obama supporters to change their minds at this point...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 21st, 2008 10:33pm (Apr 21st 2008)
     
    Have you met him? Actually shook his hand? Or can you not get that close. Glad it all went well for you - after all, if you're going to abandon hencam for these flights of fancy they'd better go the way you want!!! ;)
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd, 2008 5:13am (Apr 22nd 2008)
     
    That RIGHT Kate!

    I've been in an audience of 5,000 or so with him speaking. I actually cried like a teeny bopper.
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd, 2008 6:40am (Apr 22nd 2008)
     

    no longer a member

    Diane babykins hello and hey we have all missed you so much ... where you been ?
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd, 2008 2:50pm (Apr 22nd 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Yes runny poo does actually remind me of you, Diane...not in an offensive way though of course, just because you loathe it so much :P

    I say 'a hamster' but i don't know if that's the proper way. Which type of hamster MIGHT he be getting? I'm not a hamster person because they're so bite-y, unless i've just been unlucky with my hamsters. Indigo never bit me properly, she just tried to drag my finger away a few times because she thought it was food... :-\
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd, 2008 3:25pm (Apr 22nd 2008)
     
    Yes, Molly does that to me too. When I put my hand in to pick her up she's usually hiding up the curvy pipe so it takes ages to get her. All the while I can feel her teeth against my finger and I start to silently pray "please don't bite, please don't bite"!

    Last night she was inside my jacket and ran down the sleeve. I eventually got her out but she kept trying to go back down. When I wouldn't let her she was scratching and nibbling at the underside of my arm. It really hurt! (but then I am a baby). I wish she'd just sit down and go to sleep on me.
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd, 2008 6:06am (Apr 23rd 2008)
     
    I've been busy with US politics Wazza. I am the coordinator for "Whidbey Elects Barack" and we had YET ANOTHER caucus this weekend. We won another delegate which is good. But this is beginning to seem endless. Clinton got just enough of the vote in Pennsylvania tonight to keep it going. Aaaaaaaa!!

    I've never been bitten by any of out hamsters. That I recall anyway.
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      CommentAuthorwazza
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd, 2008 7:50am (Apr 23rd 2008)
     

    no longer a member

    Diane.. its good to see you are NOT in the Clinton camp... she does my head in.. can you imagine her in your face 24/7
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeMay 14th, 2008 6:52pm (May 14th 2008)
     
    Hi KATE! I'm just passing through (going to walk Holly with Ranger and his mom.) But I wanted to say HI to you!

    :D
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 10:27am (May 15th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Kate, I forgot to mention, rats are one of the only animals that can safely eat chicken bones without choking!

    It's a huge treat to them, and I remember ages ago giving our two rats quite a pile of chicken-bones (from Helen's sisters meal they'd had), and then later checking on the rats and having a heart-stopping moment where I thought I'd killed them.

    They were laid down on their bellies legs stretched straight out not moving... I had to double-check to make sure they weren't dead!

    Turns out they'd just eaten far too much of the treats and were resting in bloated happiness!

    But next time you have (free range!) chicken, give them a few chicken bones too, they love 'em.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 1:52pm (May 15th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I bought the mice some 'muffins' and 'donuts' the other day, they're wild berry and carrot flavour. They seem to have gone down well, although they have to share one between three because they're almost as big as the mice.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 4:02pm (May 15th 2008)
     
    The squirrel egg-bandit has struck again here...offer the rats some eggs!
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 4:05pm (May 15th 2008) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    You sure it's not Livia helping herself?

    Milly sometimes like's a (very) soft boiled egg (ie: fresh!), and rather than cull her (which is the usual method of stopping the behaviour) we just try and get to the eggs before she does! She doesn't do it all the time though, so maybe it's only when she really feels like one.

    It can be quite bad though, when a chicken starts egg-eating as it usually teaches the other hens to do it, then you're in for a whole world of trouble! ;)
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 4:07pm (May 15th 2008)
     
    No, Livia wouldn't bother to take it out of the coop, I don't think. And the squirrel did look exceptionally smug...:)
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 4:09pm (May 15th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Ahhh! :p

    Fair enough! I was wondering if Livia had just decided to lay them willy-nilly - Eva had no concept of a nest box so would just lay them wherever she felt like it...
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 4:15pm (May 15th 2008)
     
    I have found one on the lawn, but I assumed it was because the rabbit hutch (where she likes to lay her eggs) door had blown shut and that it was a sort of protest...
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 15th, 2008 10:17pm (May 15th 2008)
     
    Hi Diane, sorry missed your post - was only here limited time yesterday and loads to catch up on today!

    I had heard that about chicken bones Neil but didn't realise they liked them that much! I usually get portions so will have to ask the MIL to save me some next time she has a whole chicken and try them out.
    • CommentAuthorMaryFM
    • CommentTimeMay 16th, 2008 12:13am (May 16th 2008)
     
    Hi everyone

    My ailing pc has been keeping me offline but I'm here now and I guess everyone is in bed,not to worry. Guess I'm turning into an night owl.

    Neil I read what you said about chicken bones, my vet , well the cats really, told me years ago not to give animals chicken bones as he had several cases of the bones snagging on the back passage of the animals in which he had to sedate the animal to remove them or in worse cases it can pull the lining out of the animal whilst it trys to go to the loo, gosh that doesn't bear thinking about.
    Just thought I'd mention it.

    Mary
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      CommentAuthorneil
    • CommentTimeMay 16th, 2008 10:05am (May 16th 2008) edited
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Hi Mary,

    I know, chicken bones are a big "no-no" for animals usually, but apparently, rats can eat them with no problem at all.

    And they love 'em!

    from www.quite.co.uk/rats/:
    A less rich option is a good quality rabbit food like Burgess Supa Rabbit or Burgess Supa Natural (no pellets), supplemented with fresh vegetables, some animal protein (mealworms, lean meat or dog biscuit), and the odd cooked meat bone (chicken bones are fine -- the rats just crunch them up) or natural yoghurt to provide extra calcium.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 16th, 2008 5:21pm (May 16th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Yes, they absolutely LOVE chicken bones!
    • CommentAuthorMaryFM
    • CommentTimeMay 16th, 2008 5:29pm (May 16th 2008)
     
    I'm glad the rats are ok with the bones, I guess bigger animals especially dogs who tend to bolt their food down could have a problem with bigger pieces.
    Many years ago my dog Bruce raided a neighbours bin and got a bone stuck in his throat fortunately I walked round the corner as it happened and I was able to remove the bone myself before it did any damage and before Bruce had time to panic and I had all my fingers intact, thankfully he was a very trusting dog and let me get on with it.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeMay 16th, 2008 6:53pm (May 16th 2008)
     
    My parent's labrador got a shard of bone lodged where the sun don't shine and it took me and two veterinary nurses to hold the (normally v. docile to the point of imbecility) dog down while the vet removed it. The dog had developed enteritis because of the blockage...be warned!
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 16th, 2008 9:52pm (May 16th 2008)
     
    My sister in law's dog chased a stick that was thrown for it into a bush, and came out with it lodged in its throat. The vet managed to remove it but she died 3 days later - never recovered from the shock and trauma. So sad but a good example of why you shouldn't throw a stick for a dog - apparently its quite a common injury.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2008 3:09pm (May 19th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    Oh Kate that's horrible :(
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      CommentAuthorKateb
    • CommentTimeMay 19th, 2008 9:52pm (May 19th 2008)
     
    I know - sorry.
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      CommentAuthorRed
    • CommentTimeMay 20th, 2008 3:26pm (May 20th 2008)
     

    Keeper of the hens

    I didn't realise how dangerous sticks could be to dogs! I was in a pet shop the other day and they sold these fake rubber sticks for dogs, now i know why!
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd, 2008 7:08pm (Jun 2nd 2008)
     
    I just heard on the radio that rock & roller Bo Diddley just died at age 79. RIP Bo.

    Hmmm. How do you spell *diddley?*
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd, 2008 11:04pm (Jun 2nd 2008)
     
    I dunno - 250 years too late for my music knowledge! :D
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd, 2008 5:30am (Jun 3rd 2008) edited
     
    No way - really? I thought you'd know him for sure. The Stones, Elvis, Buddy Holly they were all influenced by him.
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      CommentAuthorchief chicken
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd, 2008 4:26pm (Jun 3rd 2008)
     
    I meant I dunno how to spell it. I HAVE heard of him !
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      CommentAuthorDianeonWhidbey
    • CommentTimeJun 4th, 2008 6:02pm (Jun 4th 2008)
     
    Whew.